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Ump153 Mon Jul 13, 2009 06:36pm

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Originally Posted by Ump Rube (Post 614311)
What is wrong with the red shirts? (Yeah, I know what is going to happen after I post this comment) I have 2, and have had nothing but compliments from fans and coaches when I wear them.

And just to really get some people going... I do, and have worn, the OC Red w/Black trim shirt (with black bags, because the red is on backorder, and have not shipped to me yet). I got it when I made the mistake of asking my wife what shirt I should buy, she saw it and wanted me to get. So in the intrest of keeping the misses happy I bought it. I will maybe even post photos of it on here in the next couple of days.

I have suspected in the past, and now I am convinced that you are using the wrong definition of rube in your signature.

kylejt Mon Jul 13, 2009 06:59pm

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Originally Posted by Rcichon (Post 614305)
In LL, you are "supposed" to throw a red flag...

I have not nor will I EVER throw a red flag.

Then why bother doing the games at all if you're not going to follow the rules? Isn't that what umpires are there for?

p.s. it doesn't have to be red, if that's what so offensive.

cc6 Mon Jul 13, 2009 08:34pm

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 614414)
1. Haven't you ever told someone how good they look when in reality, you wouldn't he caught dead in that get up?
2. They are being polite because if they tell you the truth, they are afraid that you will toss them.
3. What the hell do fans know?

1. They're okay if you match your partner.
2. They are being honest. They like the shirts.
3. Next to nothing, you don't have to know that much to tell that red is a good colour.

DG Mon Jul 13, 2009 08:59pm

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 614296)
What does F1 standing on the rubber have to do with anything?

Add another one to the myths. It starts in T ball where getting the ball back to the mound stops runners.

Rich Ives Mon Jul 13, 2009 09:10pm

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Originally Posted by DG (Post 614428)
Add another one to the myths. It starts in T ball where getting the ball back to the mound stops runners.

Not in the LL book. May be a local rule.

DG Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:32pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 614430)
Not in the LL book. May be a local rule.

LL has a T ball rulebook?

Rcichon Tue Jul 14, 2009 08:50am

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Originally Posted by kylejt (Post 614418)
Then why bother doing the games at all if you're not going to follow the rules? Isn't that what umpires are there for?

p.s. it doesn't have to be red, if that's what so offensive.

Aside from the unappealing idea of throwing a flag in baseball....

If you know who Frank Policano and Doc Lantiere are, then you know they will tell you this: if you throw a red flag, you're on your own. They do not want you to throw the flag in any game above local League play. That means District games, Sectionals, State and (especially) Regional games.

If you don't know those two names, then suffice it to say that the 'Association' does not want you to use the Red Flag.

Rich Ives Tue Jul 14, 2009 09:20am

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Originally Posted by DG (Post 614445)
LL has a T ball rulebook?

You make them up as you go along? Gotta have them written down somewhere.

It's not separate but the LL book has t-ball notes/exceptions.

tarheelcoach Tue Jul 14, 2009 09:41am

Our UIC for our local league has told us that the runner cannot continue on to 2nd on a walk. I argued with him, stating just like you guys that the play is continuous, but his reply is that a walk is an award so the play ends when the batter reaches first.

I assume his reasoning is faulty?

Forest Ump Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:46am

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Originally Posted by tarheelcoach (Post 614521)
Our UIC for our local league has told us that the runner cannot continue on to 2nd on a walk. I argued with him, stating just like you guys that the play is continuous, but his reply is that a walk is an award so the play ends when the batter reaches first.

I assume his reasoning is faulty?

A base on balls is one of two awards where the ball remains live (OBR). His reasoning is faulty.

DG Tue Jul 14, 2009 08:13pm

Best way to put a stop to that nonsense is throw the runner out.

SethPDX Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:00am

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Originally Posted by Rcichon (Post 614507)
Aside from the unappealing idea of throwing a flag in baseball....

If you know who Frank Policano and Doc Lantiere are, then you know they will tell you this: if you throw a red flag, you're on your own. They do not want you to throw the flag in any game above local League play. That means District games, Sectionals, State and (especially) Regional games.

If you don't know those two names, then suffice it to say that the 'Association' does not want you to use the Red Flag.

I do not know who either of those two are, nor do I care who they are or what they want done. If you have to follow their instructions to get games, then I guess that's what you have to do and you're stuck.

As for myself, I do what my district UIC wants done, which is in line with what the state UIC wants. My state UIC also happens to be one of the top umpires in my region, teaches at the regional umpire camp, and observes the umpires at our Regional. I find it highly unlikely he would say, "It's okay; don't throw the flag if you don't want to." I don't like carrying one because I don't like extra stuff in my pockets, but I do it. And sometimes, like last week, I actually use it.

SethPDX Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:07am

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Originally Posted by cc6 (Post 614427)
1. They're okay if you match your partner.
2. They are being honest. They like the shirts.
3. Next to nothing, you don't have to know that much to tell that red is a good colour.

1.They are not okay. And I would never match my partner because I would never waste my money on one.

2. So the fans like the shirts. That's nice.

3. Red is not good for umpiring. When I see an umpire in red I think he looks like a clown even if he actually is a good umpire.

SanDiegoSteve Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:32am

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Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 614681)
3. Red is not good for umpiring. When I see an umpire in red I think he looks like a clown even if he actually is a good umpire.

He also looks just like the bullseye on an archery target. Gives the pitcher and batters something to aim at!

Rcichon Wed Jul 15, 2009 06:17am

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Originally Posted by SethPDX (Post 614680)
I do not know who either of those two are, nor do I care who they are or what they want done. If you have to follow their instructions to get games, then I guess that's what you have to do and you're stuck.

As for myself, I do what my district UIC wants done, which is in line with what the state UIC wants. My state UIC also happens to be one of the top umpires in my region, teaches at the regional umpire camp, and observes the umpires at our Regional. I find it highly unlikely he would say, "It's okay; don't throw the flag if you don't want to." I don't like carrying one because I don't like extra stuff in my pockets, but I do it. And sometimes, like last week, I actually use it.

Then we agree. Frank is the Eastern Region UIC and Mike is the Assistant Eastern Region UIC. So I guess we do what they want if we want Regional games.


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