Little league ba goes to 2nd
 

Batter draws bb runs hard to first and doesn't stop goes to second. Coach from op team says pitcher was on the rubber ump rules because he did not stop the pitcher on the rubber does not kill the play.How should this be called?

Your ump
 

got the call right.

How can you tell? :rolleyes:

Why not
 

Based on the what the OP gave, the Umpire got it right. Play does not stop just because the pitcher is on the pitchers plate.

Pitcher cannot hurry up back to the mound to stop an advancing runner.

The battery must be set and all play must be stopped. Only then can you send the runner back (LL rules) if he tries to advance.

Not verbatim but I didn't think he asked for a rule #.

That's the part I couldn't follow.

What info do you need thats not there

Lord Byron,
I think, the runner standing on 2nd with the opposing manager complaining is an indication of the umpire's decision. :)

Umpire looked lost so I wasn't sure if he was correct but a thought the call was correct

This is it, exactly.

7.13

Nice job, RC

Ace

What does F1 standing on the rubber have to do with anything?

Now, I don't do LL, but in one of my house leagues leading off is not allowed (along with some other restrictive rules), and if a runner is leading off at the time of the pitch he is warned once, and then called out. Generally speaking in that league runners need to started heading back to their base when the pitcher is on the rubber. It is possible that is type of situation the OP is referring to.

Well...
 

In LL, you are "supposed" to throw a red flag...

I have not nor will I EVER throw a red flag.

In fact the closest thing I have is a red shirt in a glass case that says, "Do Not Break Open In An Emergency".
:D:D


PS.: If the runner leaves early, it has to be blatant for me to send him back.

What is wrong with the red shirts? (Yeah, I know what is going to happen after I post this comment) I have 2, and have had nothing but compliments from fans and coaches when I wear them.

And just to really get some people going... I do, and have worn, the OC Red w/Black trim shirt (with black bags, because the red is on backorder, and have not shipped to me yet). I got it when I made the mistake of asking my wife what shirt I should buy, she saw it and wanted me to get. So in the intrest of keeping the misses happy I bought it. I will maybe even post photos of it on here in the next couple of days.

Oh, Lawdy, no you didn't, child!!!:eek: Do you know what you done did now???!!!:p

1. Haven't you ever told someone how good they look when in reality, you wouldn't he caught dead in that get up?
2. They are being polite because if they tell you the truth, they are afraid that you will toss them.
3. What the hell do fans know?

I have suspected in the past, and now I am convinced that you are using the wrong definition of rube in your signature.

Then why bother doing the games at all if you're not going to follow the rules? Isn't that what umpires are there for?

p.s. it doesn't have to be red, if that's what so offensive.

1. They're okay if you match your partner.
2. They are being honest. They like the shirts.
3. Next to nothing, you don't have to know that much to tell that red is a good colour.

Add another one to the myths. It starts in T ball where getting the ball back to the mound stops runners.

Not in the LL book. May be a local rule.

LL has a T ball rulebook?

Aside from the unappealing idea of throwing a flag in baseball....

If you know who Frank Policano and Doc Lantiere are, then you know they will tell you this: if you throw a red flag, you're on your own. They do not want you to throw the flag in any game above local League play. That means District games, Sectionals, State and (especially) Regional games.

If you don't know those two names, then suffice it to say that the 'Association' does not want you to use the Red Flag.

You make them up as you go along? Gotta have them written down somewhere.

It's not separate but the LL book has t-ball notes/exceptions.

Our UIC for our local league has told us that the runner cannot continue on to 2nd on a walk. I argued with him, stating just like you guys that the play is continuous, but his reply is that a walk is an award so the play ends when the batter reaches first.

I assume his reasoning is faulty?

A base on balls is one of two awards where the ball remains live (OBR). His reasoning is faulty.

Best way to put a stop to that nonsense is throw the runner out.

I do not know who either of those two are, nor do I care who they are or what they want done. If you have to follow their instructions to get games, then I guess that's what you have to do and you're stuck.

As for myself, I do what my district UIC wants done, which is in line with what the state UIC wants. My state UIC also happens to be one of the top umpires in my region, teaches at the regional umpire camp, and observes the umpires at our Regional. I find it highly unlikely he would say, "It's okay; don't throw the flag if you don't want to." I don't like carrying one because I don't like extra stuff in my pockets, but I do it. And sometimes, like last week, I actually use it.

1.They are not okay. And I would never match my partner because I would never waste my money on one.

2. So the fans like the shirts. That's nice.

3. Red is not good for umpiring. When I see an umpire in red I think he looks like a clown even if he actually is a good umpire.

He also looks just like the bullseye on an archery target. Gives the pitcher and batters something to aim at!

Then we agree. Frank is the Eastern Region UIC and Mike is the Assistant Eastern Region UIC. So I guess we do what they want if we want Regional games.

They run the ump clinics in Bristal,CT. Which is the east regional office. I have been to the two day clinic not the five day. The two of them do a great job with the clinics there was approx. 100 people at the winter two day clinic.

The bull's eye on an (at least most) archery target is yellow.

Yeah, I probably should have researched that one better. How about the bullseye on a dart board then? Or the target logo for Target stores?

Or this archery target:

http://www.zenzuusuniverse.com/300px-Red_bullseye.jpg

I threw one on Saturday. I average 1-3 per tournament season. Yes, we're not supposed to look for it. But when the violation is extremely obvious, the erring runner leaves me no choice.

ace

Runner Leaving Early
 

If you call it the first time you see it in a game, you usually don't have to worry about it for the rest of the game.

Nice comeback....why do you care what color shirts a guy in Canada likes anyways?

Once you get to regionals you should look because:

TV Replay

where you can end up joining the club with the U2 that missed the gross base miss a few years back and the ULF that didn't see the hit or hear the clang when a batted ball hit off the foul pole.

Nice comeback...why do you care about someone's comeback to a guy in Canada anyways?

That's who I guessed they were.