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t2nyval · #1 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 11, 2002, 09:00pm

I think I blew one tonite. Shot to 2b, ball hops through his legs hitting his glove, then keeps rolling fast to RF. BR rounds first heads to second and the RF holds up his hands, the ball went under the fence. Is this still a ground rule double or not? Even though it was touched by the second baseman? If not GR double, what is the ruling? Thanks, Tony

Bfair · #2 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 11, 2002, 09:52pm

Ground rule double once it's verified that the ball went under the fence. Regardless of the ball being touched, the impetus that caused it to go into DBT was that of bat. Two bases from base occupied at TOP.

Just my opinion,

Freix

t2nyval · #3 (**permalink**) Fri Jul 12, 2002, 05:24am

Thanks! -Tony

18597 · #4 (**permalink**) Fri Jul 12, 2002, 08:53am

I know this is being picky.. but it is not a ground rule double, it is a 2 base award by rule.

Mike M · #5 (**permalink**) Fri Jul 12, 2002, 10:01am

So, a Home Run really not a home run but four base award?

Mr. Wilson · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Jul 12, 2002, 10:39am

A "ground rule" double is a double as defined in the rules governing play specific to a particular field. Since the scenario described here is covered by the official rules, it is not a "ground rule" anything. A ground rule double would be something like "If the ball goes into one of the many ground squirrel holes in left field, the batter will get two bases."

A home run is a (book rule) home run if it meets the requirements in the official rules (e.g. it goes over the fence). A ground rule home run might be one in which the ball hits a power line in center field, but *would* have gone over the fence had the power line not been there.

Tim C · #7 (**permalink**) Fri Jul 12, 2002, 11:17am

in proper terms it is called a "book rule" double.

I have decided to post not using vowels from now on to speed up these conversations.