A sad state of affairs . . .

[socalblue1]

[QUOTE=PeteBooth;610811]

Yes but being an independent contractor I also can write off expenses which i could not do if I were an employee.

Pete Booth

Pete, not totally correct. You can write off anything required for your job & not paid by the employer. The small number of exceptions is more than offset by not having to paying matching social security taxes.

[bob jenkins]

[QUOTE=socalblue1;610814]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

Pete, not totally correct. You can write off anything required for your job & not paid by the employer. The small number of exceptions is more than offset by not having to paying matching social security taxes.

The "matching social security taxes" are still being paid, just not directly by the employee. I'd gladly pay my employees an extra 8% (rounded, ...) and have them pay the government so I didn't have to do the paperwork. IOW, treat it just like Federal and State Income Tax withholdings.

And, there's 7 or 8 "tests" to help determine whether a person is an employee or a contractor. How they get paid is only one of the tests. (And, it's not a "bright line" that you evaluate each test and if you meet 5 of the 8 you're an employee, for example.)

[Tim C]

"Used to be in Eugene, OR, the associations charged the schools for training officials, assigning games, and cutting the checks to pay the officials. What a racket."

I defend your right to have an opinion.

That being said:

Most associations in Oregon are assigned by an individual Commissioner.

The individual commissioners establish their fees by local group.

In PDX our commissioner is paid 10% of each game check. The same commissioner currently assigns both the high school season and the summer season. He also happens to assign non-D1 colloege games in the Northwest (he has retired from that gig).

In PDX we also have an elected position of Treasurer. This is a paid position and is funded by charging schools a check writing fee. The schools love that as across Oregon IF school districts wrote checks for officials they would write 250,000 per year.

In PDX for a baseball season we have about $500,000 pass through our group.

The Commissioner gets input from umpires aboput the quailty of new (young guys) that he wants to move up the chain. He is the sole evaluator of our umpires at the varsity level.

We are paid about every two weeks and are receive a 1099 in January each tear.

[Tim C]

In Oregon officials are already excused from workmans comp through legislative action.

In Oregon schools send a check to each association to cover all games for the season. This includes mileage. The local associations then cut checks under various schedules to their umpires for games worked.

So you have a game fee + milage - an assignment fee for a net check value.

Summer/Fall Ball while not officially part of the high school association are still paid in the same manner. Teams send a season check and the treasurer then writes checks to umpires.

Hope this fills in some of the blanks.

Regards,

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Tim C

In Oregon officials are already excused from workmans comp through legislative action.

In Oregon schools send a check to each association to cover all games for the season. This includes mileage. The local associations then cut checks under various schedules to their umpires for games worked.

So you have a game fee + milage - an assignment fee for a net check value.

Summer/Fall Ball while not officially part of the high school association are still paid in the same manner. Teams send a season check and the treasurer then writes checks to umpires.

Hope this fills in some of the blanks.

Regards,

It does, but umpires are still employees, for all intents and purposes.