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Ump Rube Mon Jun 22, 2009 04:57pm
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 610209)
Paul Runge, Doug Harvey and Mike Winters. [...] Mike and Ray DiMuro as well as Brian Runge, [...] John Kibler, Ed Runge, Shag Crawford, Emmit Ashford, Eric Gregg
Are you Sid Hartman? You seem to know a lot of people. (This is a small joke for MN people, but Sid has "close personal friends" everywhere, so others might get it too.)

Ump153 Mon Jun 22, 2009 06:30pm
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 610226)
Why are you being so disrespectful to me? I don't understand your reasoning.
It was a trick question....just testing your veracity

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1. In 1986, when I started umpiring baseball (yes, the year Jim worked his 3rd World Series)
2. It was an instructed interpretation that all members learned together in bi-weekly classes which were (and still are) manditory.
The rule didn't include the discernable stop which is what we are talking about here until 1988 and the interpretation regarding hands stopping before leg moving was presented at that time. Jim was consulted by the MLB rules committee for the rule interp.

Rich Mon Jun 22, 2009 06:34pm
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Originally Posted by Ump153 (Post 610247)
It was a trick question....just testing your veracity



The rule didn't include the discernable stop which is what we are talking about here until 1988 and the interpretation regarding hands stopping before leg moving was presented at that time. Jim was consulted by the MLB rules committee for the rule interp.
This doesn't really tell me anything -- I started working HS sports in 1987 and any details about what happened what year before 2000 is all pretty fuzzy.

Matt Mon Jun 22, 2009 06:46pm
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Originally Posted by Ump Rube (Post 610234)
Are you Sid Hartman? You seem to know a lot of people. (This is a small joke for MN people, but Sid has "close personal friends" everywhere, so others might get it too.)
You mean the same Sid Hartman who knows that Minnesota teams don't lose games, the officials do? I doubt he knows so much as a beer-league softball umpire.

Steven Tyler Mon Jun 22, 2009 06:50pm
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Originally Posted by Ump Rube (Post 610234)
Are you Sid Hartman? You seem to know a lot of people. (This is a small joke for MN people, but Sid has "close personal friends" everywhere, so others might get it too.)
The politcally correct term is "jock sniffer".

SanDiegoSteve Mon Jun 22, 2009 07:12pm
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Originally Posted by Ump153 (Post 610247)
The rule didn't include the discernable stop which is what we are talking about here until 1988 and the interpretation regarding hands stopping before leg moving was presented at that time. Jim was consulted by the MLB rules committee for the rule interp.
Well, then it must have been 1988. I remember them making a big deal about it at the time. So, it was similar sources after all.

Then they just as quickly took the word "discernable" back out of the rule because Davidson and Company were balking everything in sight.


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