Pickoff from the stretch position

[Tim C]

"The stretch is a preliminary movement before the set. It's an option that still ends in a set. From the set position, the pitcher can step off, step and throw (feint to 2nd or 3rd), or pitch. 8.01C"

Actually I don't understand your statement.

There is a wind-up position and a set position.

A pitcher can step off, step and throw or feint (except to 1st in in contact with the pitcher's plate) ANYTIME during the activity associated with the set position. He does not have to attain any actual "set position" to do any of these things.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Tim C

Actually I don't understand your statement.

There is a wind-up position and a set position.

A pitcher can step off, step and throw or feint (except to 1st in in contact with the pitcher's plate) ANYTIME during the activity associated with the set position. He does not have to attain any actual "set position" to do any of these things.

Tim
I was confused a bit after first reading that too, but I think it means that the stretch position is the beginning of (i.e., part of) the set position. As such it has the same limitations/allowances as the set position.

Forest - If I've misinterpreted your statement please let me know.

Welpe - I did just now check 8.05 and that seems consistent with USSSA. 8.01 quoted by Forest seems to address it specifically.

[Forest Ump]

Tim...After reading that, I agree it was not very clear. I think the OP was asking if the pitcher could attempt a pick off during the stretch motion.

I was pointing out that the stretch is a preliminary movement associated with the set position. The pitcher does not have to use the stretch. It's an option. He can just join his hands, come set, and pitch or he can use the motion known as the stretch. He still must come set either way. He can pitch, step and throw or feint, or step off while making the preliminary motion to come set.

Rufus and I are both from Georgia. He knew what I meant.

[JPaco54]

I thought the pitcher had to have his foot on the rubber to take signals before he becomes set. Not sure I understand "set". So, Pitcher places foot on rubber, brings hands together and pauses, then he can do pitch, step-off, throw to a base or feint.

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by JPaco54

I thought the pitcher had to have his foot on the rubber to take signals before he becomes set. Not sure I understand "set". So, Pitcher places foot on rubber, brings hands together and pauses, then he can do pitch, step-off, throw to a base or feint.

Really?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Ump153

Really?

Really.

Feint: deceive by a mock action; "The midfielder feinted to shoot"

F1 may do this to 2B or 3B.

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Really.

Feint: deceive by a mock action; "The midfielder feinted to shoot"

F1 may do this to 2B or 3B.

Yes, but he cannot do this to first and the statement was worded universally. So, again: Really?

There are THREE things any pitcher can do after coming set. Pitch, disengage, step and throw to a base. (OBR 8.0)

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Really.

Feint: deceive by a mock action; "The midfielder feinted to shoot"

F1 may do this to 2B or 3B.

You must write the FED tests.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Really.

Feint: deceive by a mock action; "The midfielder feinted to shoot"

F1 may do this to 2B or 3B.

Hmmm...I think I'm starting to feel faint.