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Maybe I'm misinterpreting the discussion but I believe the coach is asking to appeal the check swing for the last ball pitched, not whether the pitch was a strike. It's not really an everyday appeal but if it's done civilly, why not...
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An appeal can only be asked on a swing that the PU has considered check and the pitch was ruled a ball. You cannot appeal a swing that has been considered a strike. So here is the thought pattern:
1. Was the pitch a strike? If yes: STRIKE, if no: continue to #2. 2. Did the batter strike at the pitch? If yes: STRIKE, if no: continue to #3. 3. Rule pitch a BALL. If coach appeals swing only, continue to #4. 4. Ask BU if player struck at ball. If yes: STRIKE, if no: ball stands.
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The PU kicked it; the BU kicked it; the opposing coach kicked it; and the requesting coach chuckles his way back to the dugout. |
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So the response to the requesting coach would be: You can't request appeal on a pitch that I called a swinging strike. I suppose this should be pregamed esp if you're working w/ somebody new or "suspect"
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This would be about number 4768 on my list of things to pre-game. Heck, you may as well pregame "I signal outs with my right hand -- how do you do it?"
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when he began arguing your called strike on the swing, he is now arguing balls and strikes. What he should have added is... well now coach that is balls and strikes and were not discussing it any further, you can return to your bench or leave.
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I like what Ozzy wrote. Exactly how it should happen. Thnaks David |
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official rule for this
From OBR:
Rule 9.02(c) Comment: The manager or the catcher may request the plate umpire to ask his partner for help on a half swing when the plate umpire calls the pitch a ball, but not when the pitch is called a strike. The manager may not complain that the umpire made an improper call, but only that he did not ask his partner for help. Field umpires must be alerted to the request from the plate umpire and quickly respond. Managers may not protest the call of a ball or strike on the pretense they are asking for information about a half swing. Appeals on a half swing may be made only on the call of ball and when asked to appeal, the home plate umpire must refer to a base umpire for his judgment on the half swing. Should the base umpire call the pitch a strike, the strike call shall prevail. |
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I guess I am not good enough to take me at my word. I even gave you a list. And this is how you treat me? By taking the word of some "moderator" that has like 7K posts? Fine, fine. But don't come crawling back to me when this "Bob" character turns his back on you.
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