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Old Sun May 24, 2009, 08:19pm
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Maybe it is false in this case, but very true in society in general. Just an observation.
More BS.

Tolerance does not involve forcing your beliefs on others, which is precisely what the religious right attempts to do and does on a daily basis. You tell me where the religious right has beliefs forced upon it.
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Old Sun May 24, 2009, 08:36pm
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That should just about do it. I think I hear the jingling and jangling of keys.
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Old Sun May 24, 2009, 08:55pm
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More BS.

Tolerance does not involve forcing your beliefs on others, which is precisely what the religious right attempts to do and does on a daily basis. You tell me where the religious right has beliefs forced upon it.
Try in England, where radical Islam is calling on the beheading of anyone who speaks against Islam. Speak out against Islam, or claim you are a Christian, and watch heads roll...literally.

There is a reason it's called "The Right." I don't see anyone shoving any beliefs down anyone's throat here. We just object to people using the Lord's name in vain.

By the way, the Bible instructs us to share the Gospel (good news of Jesus Christ) with everyone (that includes you), and to take it to every nation on Earth. That has now been accomplished for the first time in history, which is a clear sign of the last days. Believe, don't believe, whatever. Just because you don't believe something doesn't make it untrue.
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Old Sun May 24, 2009, 09:02pm
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Try in England, where radical Islam is calling on the beheading of anyone who speaks against Islam. Speak out against Islam, or claim you are a Christian, and watch heads roll...literally.
Again, though, that is the religious right--it's not Christian right-wing extremism, but religious right-wing extremism all the same.

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There is a reason it's called "The Right."
Ah, yes...the fallacy of equivocation.

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I don't see anyone shoving any beliefs down anyone's throat here. We just object to people using the Lord's name in vain.
It's not using the Lord's name in vain. The concept of the Lord's name being taken in vain refers to the utterings of false prophets.

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By the way, the Bible instructs us to share the Gospel (good news of Jesus Christ) with everyone (that includes you), and to take it to every nation on Earth. That has now been accomplished for the first time in history, which is a clear sign of the last days.
There have been "clear signs of the last days" since the destruction of the Temple.

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Believe, don't believe, whatever. Just because you don't believe something doesn't make it untrue.
Or, just because you believe something doesn't make it true. FWIW, you don't know what I believe and don't believe.
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Old Sun May 24, 2009, 09:05pm
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Oh, I have a pretty good idea you don't believe what I believe, so just leave it at that.

There were many prophecies that were not fulfilled in 70 A.D. They have only been recently fulfilled in our lifetime. Read the Book.
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Old Sun May 24, 2009, 09:08pm
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Oh, I have a pretty good idea you don't believe what I believe, so just leave it at that.

There were many prophecies that were not fulfilled in 70 A.D. They have only been recently fulfilled in our lifetime. Read the Book.
I have, maybe more than you. The prophecies are not able to be recognizably fulfillable.
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Old Mon May 25, 2009, 10:22am
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More BS.

Tolerance does not involve forcing your beliefs on others, which is precisely what the religious right attempts to do and does on a daily basis. You tell me where the religious right has beliefs forced upon it.
That might be the dumbest thing ever posted on the internet.

The "religious right"...do you have no real definition for what it might be? Forcing their beliefs? Does that mean that they say what they believe? I have been charged with "forcing my beliefs" on people many times because I had the audacity to try and influence public policy. I think that is what politics is all about, isn't it?

As for this religious person(I am a Christian) I can list many ways that other's beliefs are forced upon me.

1) Many levels of government fund baby killing.
2) Many levels of government fund sitting on one's buttocks playing XBOX instead of working for a living.
3) Many levels of government regressively punish success by punitive taxes.
4) It is difficult to go to any store with my children without manure pouring out of the speakers encouraging them to have sex.

I have heard it said many times that you cannot legislate morality...Of course, you can ONLY legislate morality. I prefer it not to be the morality of Barney Frank, Christopher Dodd, Nancy Pelosi and Che Obama.

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Old Mon May 25, 2009, 11:09am
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I have heard it said many times that you cannot legislate morality...Of course, you can ONLY legislate morality. I prefer it not to be the morality of Barney Frank, Christopher Dodd, Nancy Pelosi and Che Obama.

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OMFG. Lock it up before someone posts the list of the Republican sex scandals of the past ten years.
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Old Mon May 25, 2009, 01:27pm
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OMFG. Lock it up before someone posts the list of the Republican sex scandals of the past ten years.
Which will only be overshadowed by the many Democratic sex scandals! What's your point???


To quote Glenn Beck: "The Democrats suck. But not any more than the Republicans suck."
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I have heard it said many times that you cannot legislate morality...Of course, you can ONLY legislate morality. I prefer it not to be the morality of Barney Frank, Christopher Dodd, Nancy Pelosi and Che Obama.

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You'd prefer it to be the morality of a President who invades two countries on indefensible rationale, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people ?
WWJD ? Probably not these actions.
And yes, I am a Christian, and no, I'm not a Democrat.
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Old Mon May 25, 2009, 11:45am
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This might be the dumbest thing ever posted on the internet.

The "religious right"...do you have no real definition for what it might be? Forcing their beliefs? Does that mean that they say what they believe? I have been charged with "forcing my beliefs" on people many times because I had the audacity to try and influence public policy. I think that is what politics is all about, isn't it?

As for this religious person(I am a Christian) I can list many ways that other's beliefs are forced upon me.

1) Many levels of government fund baby killing.
2) Many levels of government fund sitting on one's buttocks playing XBOX instead of working for a living.
3) Many levels of government regressively punish success by punitive taxes.
4) It is difficult to go to any store with my children without manure pouring out of the speakers encouraging them to have sex.

I have heard it said many times that you cannot legislate morality...Of course, you can ONLY legislate morality. I prefer it not to be the morality of Barney Frank, Christopher Dodd, Nancy Pelosi and Che Obama.

Joe In Missouri
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Joe,

Love the irony.

Still not clear though. Whom do you think should have come to bat after the BOOT was properly appealed?

Because I think Bob freakin' nailed it.

JM
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