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Old Fri May 15, 2009, 01:08am
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how to be a Baseball Umpire by San Diego Steve.

I'm still trying to figure out why my name is associated with this garbage. I guess it was an attempt at humor, but I am not finding it funny. Here I thought I would see a very professional looking and speaking person in the video, such as a major league umpire, which would be much closer to how I would make such a video.
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Old Fri May 15, 2009, 07:00am
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MTD, Jr. and I belong to two umpiring associations in the Toledo area. One assigns H.S. baseball and fastpitch softball and H.S. summer baseball and fastpitch softball, as well as travel league baseball and fastpitch softball and slow pitch softball leagues. The other association only assigns travel league baseball and fastpitch softball and slow pitch softball leagues. The membership of the first association are all OhioHSAA registered umpires; the second membership is made up of both umpires who are OhioHSAA registered umpires and umpires who are not OhioHSAA registered umpires. The same person is the assigner (and member of both associations).

Last night I had a travel league (11U) baseball game assigned by the second association. My partner was straight out of the video. He was not an OhioHSAA registered umpire. He worked the plate. He wore his hat backwards all of the time, wore a red (frame and pads) catcher's mask, and a watch on his left wrist, and did NOT wear any ball bags (he stuffed the game balls in his pants pockets. I will say this, he did wear heather gray plate pants and plate shoes.

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Old Fri May 15, 2009, 09:15am
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I am sorry Steve. I was joking. because most of us don't know each other personally, you did not take it the way I thought you would. My apologies.

Is there any way to change the title of the thread?

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Old Fri May 15, 2009, 03:55pm
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No disrespect to Mr. Jenkins (with all honesty), but how many unproductive comments does one have to post before something happens?
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Old Fri May 15, 2009, 04:07pm
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UmpRube,

A moderator will find this nonsense eventually and take out the trash. You can report it by using the triangle icon in the corner of the post if you like.

Do not be overly concerned with this individual, who has made brief visits before and will likely come again.
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Old Fri May 15, 2009, 04:14pm
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Thanks, I have tag some of the responses. I do feel that I have to appologize to the forum for (lack of a better word) baiting him/her. Being part of an online forum for such a short time I now know that the best thing to do it just not respond, I will remember this in the future.
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Old Fri May 15, 2009, 04:32pm
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Don't worry about it, you're fine. Trolls come and go all the time around here.
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Old Sat May 16, 2009, 04:15pm
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No disrespect to Mr. Jenkins (with all honesty), but how many unproductive comments does one have to post before something happens?
A lot according to this thread. I like this umpire's passion for baseball, even if he hasn't received a lot of training.
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Old Sat May 16, 2009, 10:14pm
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... I like this umpire's passion for baseball, even if he hasn't received a lot of training.
canadaump6,

I agree.

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Old Sun May 17, 2009, 07:34pm
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I agree.

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Old Sun May 17, 2009, 12:57am
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A lot according to this thread. I like this umpire's passion for baseball, even if he hasn't received a lot of training.
He was referring to some inane comments from a well-known ignoramus that have since been deleted.

I think the guy in the videos would be a great umpire if he could only get some quality training. He definitely has the desire.
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He was referring to some inane comments from a well-known ignoramus that have since been deleted.
Well stated. However, deleting doesn't seem to phase this person, as he has sent me the usual nasty, vile private message under his new, creative name (see above).
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Old Sun May 17, 2009, 09:35am
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A lot according to this thread. I like this umpire's passion for baseball, even if he hasn't received a lot of training.
He is not talking about the guy in the video who thinks that the center fielder needs to hear the count.
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Old Sun May 17, 2009, 10:50am
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A lot according to this thread. I like this umpire's passion for baseball, even if he hasn't received a lot of training.
You don't seem to be able to look at this from an umpiring viewpoint, so lets try something more familiar to you.

What if someone, with a great passion for psychology, your field of study, but no training, hung up a shingle and began giving advice to people who believed him because of that passion?

The clown in those videos, if you read the posts at that site, is actually influencing people. His so-called passion and his nerve to post those ridiculous videos makes him, in the eyes of some neophytes, credible. This is another, more modern way, to perpetuate myths and make the lives of umpires who work to really improve their craft, miserable.

Passion, my young friend, must be tempered with some amount of reasonableness or knowledge in order to positively benefit someone.

The only positive attribute of those videos is their comedic value.
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Old Sun May 17, 2009, 07:23pm
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You don't seem to be able to look at this from an umpiring viewpoint, so lets try something more familiar to you.

What if someone, with a great passion for psychology, your field of study, but no training, hung up a shingle and began giving advice to people who believed him because of that passion?

The clown in those videos, if you read the posts at that site, is actually influencing people. His so-called passion and his nerve to post those ridiculous videos makes him, in the eyes of some neophytes, credible. This is another, more modern way, to perpetuate myths and make the lives of umpires who work to really improve their craft, miserable.

Passion, my young friend, must be tempered with some amount of reasonableness or knowledge in order to positively benefit someone.

The only positive attribute of those videos is their comedic value.
Maybe I just don't feel the same way some people do about his videos. To me they were good for a laugh, but in a fun way. I don't think the videos will make umpires look bad as a group, and I don't think umpires with basic training will imitate what they see in the videos.

I think comparing psychology to umpiring is like comparing apples to oranges. The result of someone taking the umpire seriously is that they might develop some bad habits. The results of someone taking the amateur psychologist seriously could be much more costly. Baseball is just a game afterall. I really don't think the posted videos will cause any harm. The people responding are probably being sarcastic.

People complain about flowerchild's insults in the same thread that they diss the guy in the video. It doesn't work both ways.

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