CB Bucknor

[zm1283]

On #1 he ended up getting it right. Yeah he missed the foul ball in the first place, but it's a tough call.

On #2 there are two things:

1) The U3 (Is that the proper term for the third base umpire?) was blocked by DeRosa's body when he fielded the ball. I assume the U3 has the fair/foul call past the bag (Which it was), but I don't know how he could see that.

2) I think the ball was fair. DeRosa's feet are right on the line in foul territory and by the time he touches the ball he's moving back toward fair territory. It was very close. I'm not sure because neither angle they show is very good, but I could see why he thought it was fair.

[mrm21711]

Originally Posted by zm1283

On #1 he ended up getting it right. Yeah he missed the foul ball in the first place, but it's a tough call.

On #2 there are two things:

1) The U3 (Is that the proper term for the third base umpire?) was blocked by DeRosa's body when he fielded the ball. I assume the U3 has the fair/foul call past the bag (Which it was), but I don't know how he could see that.

2) I think the ball was fair. DeRosa's feet are right on the line in foul territory and by the time he touches the ball he's moving back toward fair territory. It was very close. I'm not sure because neither angle they show is very good, but I could see why he thought it was fair.

Wedge said Bucknor overruled Gorman in his post game press conference.

[tballump]

Notice how Wedge holds up 2 fingers for that's 2 you hosed me on. Definitely right on the ball catching the dirt first right between the catchers legs but a terrible angle for us here on the 3rd base line call to tell. But typical rat to put up 2 fingers like he is being hosed twice to also show up the umpires.

[ozzy6900]

If you look very carefully at the video of Lowell's at bat, the ball appears to bounce in the batter's box before heading down the 3rd base line! I can't get a clear picture but if this is the case, it's a good call!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

If you look very carefully at the video of Lowell's at bat, the ball appears to bounce in the batter's box before heading down the 3rd base line! I can't get a clear picture but if this is the case, it's a good call!

Why would the ball bouncing in the batter's box make it a foul ball?

[gfgartland]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Why would the ball bouncing in the batter's box make it a foul ball?

If the ball hit the dirt in batters box, behind the foul line, and then was caught behind the bag at 3rd in foul territory then it is almost impossible for the ball to arch over to fair and cross the bag making it a fair ball.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by gfgartland

If the ball hit the dirt in batters box, behind the foul line, and then was caught behind the bag at 3rd in foul territory then it is almost impossible for the ball to arch over to fair and cross the bag making it a fair ball.

"Almost impossible" is no basis for a ruling.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by gfgartland

If the ball hit the dirt in batters box, behind the foul line, and then was caught behind the bag at 3rd in foul territory then it is almost impossible for the ball to arch over to fair and cross the bag making it a fair ball.

But it obviously (at least to me) bounced somewhere else as well -- otherwise it would have been a "caught" ball when gloved by the third baseman.

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Why would the ball bouncing in the batter's box make it a foul ball?

For the same reason it's foul when it hits the plate, Bob. You mean you didn't know that??? Why, I'm surprised at you!