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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 11:12am
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Heard about this. And from the articles he was wearing a helmet?

I am sure this added to the craziness of this game.

NEW YORK – Umpire Ed Hickox likely will be out for a week after sustaining a concussion during Saturday's game between the Cleveland Indians and New York Yankees.

Working home plate, Hickox was struck in the middle of his helmet by a foul ball off Cleveland outfielder Ben Francisco's bat in the sixth inning of the Indians' 22-4 win. Catcher Jose Molina quickly reached out to help steady Hickox as he staggered backward.

Hickox left the field for a moment, but remained in the game until second base umpire Tom Hallion replaced him behind the plate in the eighth.

Crew Chief Jerry Crawford says he believes Hickox spent the night in the hospital.

Umpire Mike Estabrook was set to fill in for Hickox on Sunday.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 11:46am
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"And from the articles he was wearing a helmet?"
He was indeed wearing an HSM with his traditional 7 stitch cap.

This shows that perhaps the MiLB study done last season that showed both the frequency and seriousness of concussions were greater while wearing an HSM.

As I stated I did not put a lot of value in last summer's study as it was anecdotal with not enough raw information. But there could be a trend coming up.

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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 12:00pm
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Heard about this. And from the articles he was wearing a helmet?

I am sure this added to the craziness of this game.

NEW YORK – Umpire Ed Hickox likely will be out for a week after sustaining a concussion during Saturday's game between the Cleveland Indians and New York Yankees.

Working home plate, Hickox was struck in the middle of his helmet by a foul ball off Cleveland outfielder Ben Francisco's bat in the sixth inning of the Indians' 22-4 win. Catcher Jose Molina quickly reached out to help steady Hickox as he staggered backward.

Hickox left the field for a moment, but remained in the game until second base umpire Tom Hallion replaced him behind the plate in the eighth.

Crew Chief Jerry Crawford says he believes Hickox spent the night in the hospital.
Umpire Mike Estabrook was set to fill in for Hickox on Sunday.

The crew chief does not know if Hickox spent the night in the hospital??????????
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maybe he wasn't 100% sure or isn't authorized to comment on it...so he probably stated it that way...

is Estabrook a full timer or a filler-inner?
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NEW YORK – Umpire Ed Hickox likely will be out for a week after sustaining a concussion during Saturday's game between the Cleveland Indians and New York Yankees.

Working home plate, Hickox was struck in the middle of his helmet by a foul ball off Cleveland outfielder Ben Francisco's bat in the sixth inning of the Indians' 22-4 win.
The injury is unfortunate. But look on the bright side: at least the report didn't call it a foul tip!
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maybe he wasn't 100% sure or isn't authorized to comment on it...so he probably stated it that way...

is Estabrook a full timer or a filler-inner?
He is an up and down guy.
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He was indeed wearing an HSM with his traditional 7 stitch cap.

This shows that perhaps the MiLB study done last season that showed both the frequency and seriousness of concussions were greater while wearing an HSM.

As I stated I did not put a lot of value in last summer's study as it was anecdotal with not enough raw information. But there could be a trend coming up.

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Which appears strange because for a few of the guys who suffered injuries, they immediately switched to the HSM (Carlson, Danley, Foster).
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A bit off topic, but related to this.

I know the umpires finished the game as a 3-man crew. What would be the steps if they were a 6-man crew at the time (World Series, for instance)? Do they change to 5-man, or do they drop the other OF umpire and go to 4-man? If they remain 5-man, where does the 5th man position himself?
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They usually drop to 5-man with one of the outfield line umpires coming in.
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He was indeed wearing an HSM with his traditional 7 stitch cap.

This shows that perhaps the MiLB study done last season that showed both the frequency and seriousness of concussions were greater while wearing an HSM.

As I stated I did not put a lot of value in last summer's study as it was anecdotal with not enough raw information. But there could be a trend coming up.

Regards,
Perhaps since the helmet isn't designed to be worn with a cap...
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A bit off topic, but related to this.

I know the umpires finished the game as a 3-man crew. What would be the steps if they were a 6-man crew at the time (World Series, for instance)? Do they change to 5-man, or do they drop the other OF umpire and go to 4-man? If they remain 5-man, where does the 5th man position himself?

happened during last years play-offs (WS?) at Tropicana. The HPU left the game, I think 2BU went behind the dish and one of the OF umps moved in. They finished with 5 and the one OF ump was on the more troublesome line (catwalks and other factors)
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Perhaps since the helmet isn't designed to be worn with a cap...
Doubtful. If a cap underneath effects the performance of an HSM, so would varying hairstyles.
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Doubtful. If a cap underneath effects the performance of an HSM, so would varying hairstyles.
So umps sporting mullets shouldn't rock the HSM?
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Hickox was wearing a long sleeve black shirt, also. After the accident, all the umpires were wearing short sleeve powder blue shirts. I guess it warmed up enough during the game for the umpires to consider changing to something cooler.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 05:49pm
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Hickox was wearing a long sleeve black shirt, also. After the accident, all the umpires were wearing short sleeve powder blue shirts. I guess it warmed up enough during the game for the umpires to consider changing to something cooler.
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