<i> Originally posted by MAC </i>

<i> Originally posted by PeteBooth </i>
<i> Originally posted by Lilblue612 </i>


<b> PETER , Did you look at umpire.org thread, and how do you
feel you did not put the defensive team at an extreme disadvantage by them having to get four out's in this inning
the batter/ runner is never going to beat the throw ,
I am looking to see your thought's on this matter </b>

Well to answer you that is the uknown question. When the offensive player reacted to the call of FOUL you don't change to fair. We don't know what would have happened if B1 kept running. There could have been an overthrow etc.

The point is we don't know. All we know is at the time the ball was called FOUL, one player reacted.

The bottom line here is: 99.9% of the time when the umpire signals and says FOUL <b> It is FOUL </b> That's why we are trained to slow down our timing and not make calls too quickly, but it does happen. As my mentor once told me, when one umpire yells FOUL, we all YELL Foul.

Pete Booth

Once an umpire has called "Foul!" or "Dead Ball!", that's it. It's over. Period. All you can do is put your tail between your legs and eat that one. (How many times have you seen an umpire throwing his hands up and calling "Time" while a runner behind him is running from 2nd to 3rd? And guess what? If somebody throws over to 3rd and tags the runner, or if the runner ends up making it safely to 3rd---well, he's GOING back to 2nd because of the "time" call. All you can do is place the runners (and batter, if need be) back at their last legally occupied bases when the play was killed. There's NO other option---not even 9.01c. (Just pray that ESPN wasn't there filming the game---grin).

Garth, "maybe he heard it hit the plate"???? A ball off the plate is still fair. If we are going to make something up, i'd claim to have seen in bounce off a shoe or something!

Boone:

It was a joke.

GB

damn internet, your subtle humor was lost on me!