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Old Tue Jan 13, 2009, 09:00pm
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"Should I have a list like this on the ballfield?"
Yes, and hand one to each of the coaches at the pre-game.



In case it isn't clear: No.
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2009, 10:36pm
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Think if the time you can save. Before the manager even makes his way to the stop step you can tell him, "That's a number 7, Skip."
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 12:51am
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Keep working on it.. there are more than 15, a good rule of thumb to go by. If you can't describe it, don't call it.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 08:26am
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What about #9? I am at work without books, so I cannot look it up. I did not know that was a balk. It is one of the "technical" balks that is not called?
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Old Thu Jan 15, 2009, 04:14pm
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What about #9? I am at work without books, so I cannot look it up. I did not know that was a balk. It is one of the "technical" balks that is not called?
Guys, can you help me with this one? I got the books out when I got home and must be overlooking something, 'cause I could not find it. In 26 years I have never seen anyone call this or complain when it was not called.
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Old Thu Jan 15, 2009, 04:52pm
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Guys, can you help me with this one? I got the books out when I got home and must be overlooking something, 'cause I could not find it. In 26 years I have never seen anyone call this or complain when it was not called.
From the J/R:

Balks

It is a balk if a pitcher:


9. Does not step to a base in throwing (or feinting a throw) to such base.



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Old Thu Jan 15, 2009, 04:54pm
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From the J/R:

Balks

It is a balk if a pitcher:


9. Does not step to a base in throwing (or feinting a throw) to such base.



Tim.
From the OP:

9. after a feint or throw to a base from the rubber, fails to disengage
the rubber before reengaging and pitching;
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Old Fri Jan 16, 2009, 10:28pm
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MLB 805(c) continued?

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Guys, can you help me with this one? I got the books out when I got home and must be overlooking something, 'cause I could not find it. In 26 years I have never seen anyone call this or complain when it was not called.
Consider it a quick "return" effort to prevent a runner from establishing a lead prior to a pitch. Suppose a pitcher would feint to force the runner to return to base. Then the pitcher would set up quickly, "count" and fire home before the runner could re-establish his lead. That's a balk.

Disclaimer: Applied "disengage" rule to demonstrate requirement. I took liberty with similar rules covering "different" balk situations. I could be wrong here.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 11:58am
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... a good rule of thumb to go by. ... don't call it.
I call only the balks that are unavoidable.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 12:10pm
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I call only the balks that are unavoidable.
Kevin,

Since all balks are "avoidable" - I know this because I regularly see pitchers pitch and make pick-offs without balking - I have no idea what you are trying to convey by this statement.

Nonetheless, I believe I disagree with your assertion.

Would you care to clarify?

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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 12:23pm
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He means he only calls the extremely obvious balks if I am not mistaken.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 12:27pm
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He means he only calls the extremely obvious balks if I am not mistaken.
Thanks, Durham

(I answered before I read your post)
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 12:26pm
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Kevin,

Since all balks are "avoidable" - I know this because I regularly see pitchers pitch and make pick-offs without balking - I have no idea what you are trying to convey by this statement.

Nonetheless, I believe I disagree with your assertion.

Would you care to clarify?

JM
Balks that are so obvious that they must be called. Calling the balk is unavoidable.

I hate calling balks and I hate it when a game turns on a borderline balk call.
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Old Wed Jan 14, 2009, 01:15pm
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Balks that are so obvious that they must be called. Calling the balk is unavoidable.

I hate calling balks and I hate it when a game turns on a borderline balk call.
What about calling a borderline strike 3 that changes the game? Don't do that either?
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