Annual Rising Fastball Update

[SAump]

Originally Posted by tballump

Imagine explaining this one to an Earl Weaver when he questions a pitch. I'll be nice and say WGARA or WGAFF on this one, and I believe, so would Earl.

It means knowing a ball on tv camera is 17 inches off the plate and a computer glitch allows it to be incorrectly scored as a strike.

It also means balls clearly within the strike zone on tv cameras were incorrectly labled as balls by the tracking system use to judge the accuracy of the umpire.

It means that plus or minus 1/2 inch accuracy is fuzzy math for an inch {eliminating the glitches which frequently occur in the system}.

It means umpire judgement that rely on any computer algorithm is only as good as the computer algorithm being used.

It means if Earl were serious, MLB would place 2 HD cameras in CF on either side of the pitcher and one directly over the plate and rely on computer video graphic packages that capture the location of the baseball on instant replay.

[tballump]

Yes they would (MLB would place 2 HD cameras in CF on either side of the pitcher and one directly over the plate and rely on computer video graphic packages that capture the location of the baseball in a series of instant replay videos), and I believe that was the MLUA arguement when announcers tried to call pitches from the camera years ago. It has also been the WUA's position ever since Questec was initiated, and I believe the WUA has quite successfully challenged many of the points you brought up about the deficiencies in the system.

[SAump]

Originally Posted by tballump

Yes they would (MLB would place 2 HD cameras in CF on either side of the pitcher and one directly over the plate and rely on computer video graphic packages that capture the location of the baseball in a series of instant replay videos), and I believe that was the MLUA arguement when announcers tried to call pitches from the camera years ago. It has also been the WUA's position ever since Questec was initiated, and I believe the WUA has quite successfully challenged many of the points you brought up about the deficiencies in the system.

Previous MLUA incorrect strike calls were once electronically tagged as a strike. The umpire was always right according to MLB.

Current WUA incorrect strike calls are removed from the database by Pitch/FX for MLB before release of data to the public. No one could prove the umpire wasn't right according to MLB. So how did that other website SDS provided know if the umpire call resulting in an ejection was correct or not?

Future negotiations may include reversal of incorrect call with crew consultation and permission from MLB Instant Replay office. The umpire will always be right thanks to high definition TV according to MLB.

Thanks for the interesting discussion and valuable comments provided by all.
Trying hard to be clear here with added union info provided by tballump.

[bob jenkins]

We're not going through this crap again.