New Umpire School...O.U.T.S.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I have umpired at Cocoa Expo before. It is a nice facility considering it was built by the Houston Colt 45's now the Houston Expos as its spring training facility when they became an expansion team in the National League.

I have a friend who is Mr. Baseball Umpire in Brevard County. If anybody knows anything about this school he will know. I will get back to this thread when I get more information.

MTD, Sr.

[Bob Bainter]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I have umpired at Cocoa Expo before. It is a nice facility considering it was built by the Houston Colt 45's now the Houston Expos as its spring training facility when they became an expansion team in the National League.

I have a friend who is Mr. Baseball Umpire in Brevard County. If anybody knows anything about this school he will know. I will get back to this thread when I get more information.

MTD, Sr.

Hey, Mark! I have sent some letters to some associations in Florida, and would love to know who Mr. Baseball Umpire is, and that way I can get him as much information as he needs. Otherwise, this idea is so relatively new that about the only people who would have known about it are myself, my staff, and the Expo and the students that have already signed up. I would love to give anyone any information they require. If you have any questions, let me know, I'm available any time.

Bob Bainter
Oceanside Umpire Training School

[UmpTTS43]

Bob,

I appreciate your response and your honesty. I have been to camps before where he double dipping has occured and it did not make me happy. I attended one of Evans' Classics, so I have a little knowledge on that. I know that you and your staff are working to make this one of the premier camps out there and I'm sure you will succeed. I may even have to take a trip to Florida to check it out. You know us umpires, we always have to chirp about something, someone, especially during the off season. Best of luck and maybe I'll see you down the road in FL.

How 'bout those Gators?
Troy

[Bob Bainter]

Originally Posted by SAump

I would like to throw this info inside.
Umpires work during scrimmage games at local university.
Both clinic and university benefit.

12th Annual South Texas Umpire Clinic

Not passing any assessment. Others opinion may vary. Just making info public.

I'll pass an assessment...with guys like Coffland, Moser, and Wendel...you CANNOT go wrong with going to that school, either!

I have had the pleasure of working with A.J. Wendel in Spring Training, Casey Moser at the AAA All-Star Game, and I knew Coffland...good guys, good program...

12 years...wow...keep it up!

Bainter

[UmpTTS43]

I'm sure this is a fine camp, however, for 1/2 of the price, one can attend one of Evans' Classic Clinics. There is a part of me that gets in my craw when you spend big $ for a camp, and end up working games that, more likely than not, are still paying for the umpires. Kind of like double dipping if you know what I mean.

Like I said, I'm sure this is a fine camp and is run by excellant people, I just had to throw out my .02.

[Bob Bainter]

Originally Posted by UmpTTS43

I'm sure this is a fine camp, however, for 1/2 of the price, one can attend one of Evans' Classic Clinics. There is a part of me that gets in my craw when you spend big $ for a camp, and end up working games that, more likely than not, are still paying for the umpires. Kind of like double dipping if you know what I mean.

Like I said, I'm sure this is a fine camp and is run by excellant people, I just had to throw out my .02.

Thanks for saying we're are a fine camp and excellent people, and, if I may, I'd like to respond about the double dipping thing...and trust me, you have every right to wonder how that's going to work.

I am assuming that you mean the money would have been paid to the umpires is now going into the school's pockets. That's a very valid question you might have, but, my school is not going to take money from the Expo that somebody else has earned by working. I don't think that's fair, and I am not going to do it. My school would have every right, from a business standpoint, to do this, but I am like you, and I don't like that, either. As a matter of fact we haven't even discussed the pay standpoint. I've always just assumed that would be one of the attractive factors for the Expo to host our school.

If we ever do that, I think it would be cool if I could pay the umpires back that money. That would be an incentive, don't you think?

PS...I know the Evans' Classics are 1/2 our price, and Jim is a tremendous individual, so you'll never hear me say anything bad about them. However, I have had interest expressed from three independent leagues in the last 24 hours about observing our school for potential candidates for their leagues in 2009. I can't divulge which leagues yet, but I will have more to come when I get the okay from them.

Whew...there is my two cents!

Bob Bainter
O.U.T.S.