New Umpire School...O.U.T.S.

[UmpTTS43]

Bob,

I appreciate your response and your honesty. I have been to camps before where he double dipping has occured and it did not make me happy. I attended one of Evans' Classics, so I have a little knowledge on that. I know that you and your staff are working to make this one of the premier camps out there and I'm sure you will succeed. I may even have to take a trip to Florida to check it out. You know us umpires, we always have to chirp about something, someone, especially during the off season. Best of luck and maybe I'll see you down the road in FL.

How 'bout those Gators?
Troy

[Bob Bainter]

Originally Posted by SAump

I would like to throw this info inside.
Umpires work during scrimmage games at local university.
Both clinic and university benefit.

12th Annual South Texas Umpire Clinic

Not passing any assessment. Others opinion may vary. Just making info public.

I'll pass an assessment...with guys like Coffland, Moser, and Wendel...you CANNOT go wrong with going to that school, either!

I have had the pleasure of working with A.J. Wendel in Spring Training, Casey Moser at the AAA All-Star Game, and I knew Coffland...good guys, good program...

12 years...wow...keep it up!

Bainter

[UmpTTS43]

I'm sure this is a fine camp, however, for 1/2 of the price, one can attend one of Evans' Classic Clinics. There is a part of me that gets in my craw when you spend big $ for a camp, and end up working games that, more likely than not, are still paying for the umpires. Kind of like double dipping if you know what I mean.

Like I said, I'm sure this is a fine camp and is run by excellant people, I just had to throw out my .02.

[Bob Bainter]

Originally Posted by UmpTTS43

I'm sure this is a fine camp, however, for 1/2 of the price, one can attend one of Evans' Classic Clinics. There is a part of me that gets in my craw when you spend big $ for a camp, and end up working games that, more likely than not, are still paying for the umpires. Kind of like double dipping if you know what I mean.

Like I said, I'm sure this is a fine camp and is run by excellant people, I just had to throw out my .02.

Thanks for saying we're are a fine camp and excellent people, and, if I may, I'd like to respond about the double dipping thing...and trust me, you have every right to wonder how that's going to work.

I am assuming that you mean the money would have been paid to the umpires is now going into the school's pockets. That's a very valid question you might have, but, my school is not going to take money from the Expo that somebody else has earned by working. I don't think that's fair, and I am not going to do it. My school would have every right, from a business standpoint, to do this, but I am like you, and I don't like that, either. As a matter of fact we haven't even discussed the pay standpoint. I've always just assumed that would be one of the attractive factors for the Expo to host our school.

If we ever do that, I think it would be cool if I could pay the umpires back that money. That would be an incentive, don't you think?

PS...I know the Evans' Classics are 1/2 our price, and Jim is a tremendous individual, so you'll never hear me say anything bad about them. However, I have had interest expressed from three independent leagues in the last 24 hours about observing our school for potential candidates for their leagues in 2009. I can't divulge which leagues yet, but I will have more to come when I get the okay from them.

Whew...there is my two cents!

Bob Bainter
O.U.T.S.

[Bob Bainter]

Hey, have some updated news on our school...

We've been in contact with three independent leagues over the past 72 hours and they have expressed interest in coming to our school to see what we're up to and perhaps...and I stress the word "perhaps"...take a look at our students for potential candidates. I can't divulge the names of these leagues yet because nothing is a "go" as of this post, but I'm confident they will be in attendance, and there is no better way of getting seen if this level of baseball is something you're interested than to have the supervisors of umpires for this league in attendance.

Also, all students who have signed up already and prospective students will have the opportunity to pre-order equipment and gear from Gerry Davis so any items they'd like to have will be ready for them when they arrive at the school. Not sure what the cut off date for pre-orders will be yet, but I will keep you up to date!

See you in February!

Bob Bainter
Oceanside Umpire Training School
Oceanside Umpire Training School - Home
309-363-9995

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Bob Bainter

Hey, have some updated news on our school...

We've been in contact with three independent leagues over the past 72 hours and they have expressed interest in coming to our school to see what we're up to and perhaps...and I stress the word "perhaps"...take a look at our students for potential candidates. I can't divulge the names of these leagues yet because nothing is a "go" as of this post, but I'm confident they will be in attendance, and there is no better way of getting seen if this level of baseball is something you're interested than to have the supervisors of umpires for this league in attendance.

Also, all students who have signed up already and prospective students will have the opportunity to pre-order equipment and gear from Gerry Davis so any items they'd like to have will be ready for them when they arrive at the school. Not sure what the cut off date for pre-orders will be yet, but I will keep you up to date!

See you in February!

Bob Bainter
Oceanside Umpire Training School
Oceanside Umpire Training School - Home
309-363-9995

This is not meant as a reflection on you, but rather on the Indies.

I would be disappointed if they switched from recruiting five week pro school grads and PBUC candidates to accepting two week camp grads. It would seem a step backwards in their endeavor to upgrade their umpiring ranks.

[Bob Bainter]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

This is not meant as a reflection on you, but rather on the Indies.

I would be disappointed if they switched from recruiting five week pro school grads and PBUC candidates to accepting two week camp grads. It would seem a step backwards in their endeavor to upgrade their umpiring ranks.

I think you misunderstood me...I didn't say they were switching from five week pro school grads...they are just coming down to see what's new at our school, and one never knows what happens after that. I completely agree...I can't possibly teach what the five-week schools can in two weeks...Our school is simply an alternative for those who don't want a career in professional baseball, or can't make the time commitment from their families or their jobs...

PBUC is sending their candidates to the Coastal Plain League from now on...just saw that on the CPL website...interesting concept!


Bob