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"where can I find the official interpretation that clarifies this"
Depending upon your interpretation and acceptance of "the official interpretation", I belive "The 2002 BRD" (Baseball Rule Differences) Pg 183 *348, does a good job of explaining this. Note ,there is no penalty for not dropping the hands to the sides after disengaging. I am not sure if there is a penalty for engaging the rubber without both hands to the side however, "prior to coming to a set position, the pitcher shall have one hand on his side'. OBR 8.01 BRD states that it is a "Don't do that" pitching infraction, according to OBR. Therefore it may be a balk with runners on base. Mabey someone else can help out here? 
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Tue Feb 25, 2003, 12:32am
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Mel, the pitching maneuver you describe happens all the time. If you carefully read 8.01 of the OBR, you will find that, for a pitcher to disengage the rubber, he must drop both hands and step BACK off the rubber with his pivot foot.
BUT, if the pitcher doesn't do that, there is no penalty for not doing it. Therein is the reason why upires do not enforce the disengagement protocol. As a base upire, I watch that pivot foot like a hawk, because they don't always get that foot completely off the rubber. I nail them for it, because I feel like pitchers push to the limit a rule that has no "teeth in it."
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Tue Feb 25, 2003, 07:28am
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Marty,
How do you "nail them for it"? Since the pitcher hasn't done anything that warrants a penalty; except for a "Don't do that". Generally speaking, after a "warning" of "Don't do that"; if a pitcher does it again, he could/should be ejected. I haven't seen that happen . . . at any level of ball. Jerry
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Tue Feb 25, 2003, 04:53pm
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JERRY,
REREAD MY POST. SOME OF THE FAST AND FANCY MOVEMENTS BY SOME OF THESE PITCHERS RESULT IN THE PIVOT NOT COMPLETELY COMING OFF THE RUBBER. THAT'S WHEN I YELL AND POINT, "THAT'S A BALK --YOU DIDN'T CLEAR THE RUBBER COMPLETELY. YOU,(R1) GO TO SECOND..." AND SO ON. THEN THE COACH COMES RUNNING OUT, "HEY WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" MY REPLY IS, "I'M HELPING YOUR PITCHER LEARN HOW TO LEGALLY DISENGAGE THE RUBBER, COACH. MAYBE DURING THE NEXT PRACTICE YOU CAN HELP HIM WITH THAT." IN SOME OF THE GAMES, THE PITCHERS ARE AFRAID TO KEEP DOING THE IMPROPER DISENGAGEMENT, EVEN THEIR CLOSER. I JUST IGNORE THE DIRTY LOOKS, BECAUSE WAY DOWN DEEP, I KNOW THAT I DID SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE GAME. *LAUGH*
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Tue Feb 25, 2003, 05:25pm
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" I watch that pivot foot like a hawk, because they don't always get that foot completely off the rubber. I nail them for it, because I feel like pitchers push to the limit a rule that has no "teeth in it.""
I do believe the proper term for this is BOOGER PICKING. Sorry , my wife is waiting so we can go to dinner and enjoy the night on the fees I just earned. Got Go.
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Tue Feb 25, 2003, 05:49pm
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Jicecone, "Booger Picking" is an interesting term...in fact it sounds like a hocky term. Perhaps that is where your expertise lies. Anyway, I hope you and the wife had a nice dinner out.
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Tue Feb 25, 2003, 11:12pm
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Marty,
You're quite a smarty.
Watch like a hawk if you want but I will "only call the balks that everyone sees". If you are watching the pitcher's plate so studiously I would suggest you're missing a whole lotta other stuff happening around you. After reading your profile I ain't gonna get too worked up over ya! Enjoy. [Edited by Tim C on Feb 25th, 2003 at 10:16 PM]
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