Welll.....

LMan · #1 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 23, 2008, 10:56pm

...Mr. Danley did not exactly cover himself with glory this evening.

SethPDX · #2 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 23, 2008, 11:02pm

Yeah, those games happen even World Series guys. He's got to be an excellent umpire in order to earn the Series, but still--tough night for him.

BTW, fashion plates--he wore a hat under his HSM.

kylejt · #3 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 23, 2008, 11:26pm

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BTW, fashion plates--he wore a hat under his HSM.

He also wore one of those collars that dogs wear after they come back from the vets under his deep sea divers helmet.

Kevin Finnerty · #4 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 23, 2008, 11:29pm

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He also wore one of those collars that dogs wear after they come back from the vets under his deep sea divers helmet.

I just got a rug burn when I fell out of my chair.

jimpiano · #5 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 23, 2008, 11:17pm

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Originally Posted by LMan

...Mr. Danley did not exactly cover himself with glory this evening.

Because?

OzUmp · #6 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 23, 2008, 11:25pm

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Originally Posted by jimpiano

Because?

Great! Another apologist. Did you even watch the game?

jimpiano · #7 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 23, 2008, 11:48pm

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Originally Posted by OzUmp

Great! Another apologist. Did you even watch the game?

Yeah , I did.

Kevin Finnerty · #8 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 23, 2008, 11:28pm

... Ahem... he rang a guy on a check swing and then asked the first base umpire if he swung ...and then Rollins got nicked pretty clearly and Danley kept him at the plate and helped kill a key rally.

I love the guy and I work in the same unit with his big brother. They're both great guys. Kerwin gives a lot back, too. But it was a nightmarish kind of outing for him. He didn't leave on a gurney this time, so it was only his second worst game of the season. Now he gets to hang out down the left field line and listen to all those Philly fans.

LMan · #9 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 23, 2008, 11:33pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

... Ahem... he rang a guy on a check swing and then asked the first base umpire if he swung ...and then Rollins got nicked pretty clearly and Danley kept him at the plate and helped kill a key rally.

I love the guy and I work in the same unit with his big brother. They're both great guys. Kerwin gives a lot back, too. But it was a nightmarish kind of outing for him. He didn't leave on a gurney this time, so it was only his second worst game of the season. Now he gets to hang out down the left field line and listen to all those Philly fans.

I'm one of the biggest 'dont knock it till you are there' guys, but even by most modest standards this was a bad, bad outing. The check swing incident was all but unbelievable at this level... I don't know what happened to the thought process on that one.

Oh well, as you say, he's sure to have fun in Philly. Ce la vie.

David Emerling · #10 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 24, 2008, 02:56pm

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I'm one of the biggest 'dont knock it till you are there' guys, but even by most modest standards this was a bad, bad outing. The check swing incident was all but unbelievable at this level... I don't know what happened to the thought process on that one.Ce la vie.

Here's what I think happened after watching it a few times.

The pitch was initially called a strike - that is quite obvious. But the catcher was asking for an appeal on the swing even before he was aware that the PU was in the process of ruling it a strike. If you watch, the catcher appeals very quickly.

Since it is a policy to honor all check swings (but only on pitches called a ball), I think the PU instinctively honored the appeal, momentarily not realizing that he had just signaled the pitch as a strike. In fact, the umpire did not finish his third strike mechanic as he was interrupted by the catcher's prompt appeal. The PU went from "third strike mechanic mode" into "appeal mode".

Just a brain fart.

David Emerling
Memphis, TN

jimpiano · #11 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 24, 2008, 06:44pm

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Here's what I think happened after watching it a few times.

The pitch was initially called a strike - that is quite obvious. But the catcher was asking for an appeal on the swing even before he was aware that the PU was in the process of ruling it a strike. If you watch, the catcher appeals very quickly.

Since it is a policy to honor all check swings (but only on pitches called a ball), I think the PU instinctively honored the appeal, momentarily not realizing that he had just signaled the pitch as a strike. In fact, the umpire did not finish his third strike mechanic as he was interrupted by the catcher's prompt appeal. The PU went from "third strike mechanic mode" into "appeal mode".

Just a brain fart.

David Emerling
Memphis, TN

I think he started to call strike three and changed his mind and called for help on the swing.

jimpiano · #12 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 23, 2008, 11:52pm

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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

... Ahem... he rang a guy on a check swing and then asked the first base umpire if he swung ...and then Rollins got nicked pretty clearly and Danley kept him at the plate and helped kill a key rally.

I love the guy and I work in the same unit with his big brother. They're both great guys. Kerwin gives a lot back, too. But it was a nightmarish kind of outing for him. He didn't leave on a gurney this time, so it was only his second worst game of the season. Now he gets to hang out down the left field line and listen to all those Philly fans.

I am sure he is just shaking at the thought.

Pensaump · #13 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 24, 2008, 07:40am

I gotta kinda blame the 1st base umpire as well.

He should have banged the guy. The check was close enough to go either way (at least the replay I saw) and if he would have pumped him out it would have bailed out Kerwin at that plate.

One of the few times in my opinion that you have to bang the batter out from the wing regardless. At least in a "protect the crew" mentality.

Kevin Finnerty · #14 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 24, 2008, 11:02am

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I gotta kinda blame the 1st base umpire as well.

He should have banged the guy. The check was close enough to go either way (at least the replay I saw) and if he would have pumped him out it would have bailed out Kerwin at that plate.

One of the few times in my opinion that you have to bang the batter out from the wing regardless. At least in a "protect the crew" mentality.

Precisely! Definitely close enough, and definitely would have bailed him out of the screwed up mechanic. It was just a fart that made his arm go up, and then Culbreth burned him. Brutal.

mrm21711 · #15 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 24, 2008, 11:13am

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Originally Posted by Pensaump

I gotta kinda blame the 1st base umpire as well.

He should have banged the guy. The check was close enough to go either way (at least the replay I saw) and if he would have pumped him out it would have bailed out Kerwin at that plate.

One of the few times in my opinion that you have to bang the batter out from the wing regardless. At least in a "protect the crew" mentality.

I thought Culbreth was trying to "protect the crew" with his no swing call. However, I would have pumped him out and dealt with the consequences if I was at 1B and that happened to me.