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celebur Wed Oct 22, 2008 04:41pm

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 544772)
In my opinion, there are a lot of umpires out there that really need to brush up on the rules, especially the ones that you rarely run across. Not all of us are as fortunate as to have real bull pens (other than HS & College fields) so a rule such as this could very easily come into play.

Absolutely true. And I'm certainly one of those that needs to brush up. I find the rules that I've blown the worst are the ones I remember the best now! It's good to read the rules, but it's even better to apply them and learn from mistakes (our own as well as those of others).

MrUmpire Wed Oct 22, 2008 04:43pm

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Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel (Post 544853)
I'm sorry..what page does it say that there must be protection for players warming up on the field?

The question regarded interference. You stated there was no rule covering this situation. Bobby has posted it repeatedly. Try reading it.

ozzy6900 Wed Oct 22, 2008 05:59pm

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Originally Posted by PeteBooth (Post 544774)
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Ozzy just curious this is Fall ball so why even bother picking up the game in the top of the 5th to begin with.

It's Fall ball so what's the point.

Also, you said that the umpires offered to do the game so I take it to mean they did not get paid (again) to show up.

Thanks

Pete Booth

As far as the Fall League, all games are played as in Summer Ball. There are standings, and winner gets trophies and dinner at a sponsor restaurant.

Yes, the umpires offered to do the game for no fee. The assigner took them to dinner following the game so they made out okay. The assigner pays for the entire meal including beers. The final game of the Fall Season is officiated by 6 volunteer umpires and the assigner takes us all to dinner afterward. I've been doing this for 20 years, every Fall.

ozzy6900 Wed Oct 22, 2008 06:03pm

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Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel (Post 544853)
I'm sorry..what page does it say that there must be protection for players warming up on the field?

This particular League has this as their one and only "home rule". I have worked many fields where managers require a third player on their own. I have no problem with this.

DG Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:18pm

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Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck (Post 544596)
intentional interference by a person authorized to be on the playing field

Impose such penalties so as to nullify the interference.

3.15

Agree. Person authorized to be on the playing field is designated to intentionally interfere. That is reason for being there.

Likely a double, unless runner is particularly speedy and umpire thinks he may have legged out a triple absent the interference. I'm not sure I would go that far.

Rita C Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:51am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 544845)
You need to get out more often. The majority of baseball fields have the bullpens down the left and right field lines.

Not around here, dear.

Rita

SanDiegoSteve Thu Oct 23, 2008 03:01am

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Originally Posted by Rita C (Post 545011)
Not around here, dear.

Rita

Not knowing exactly where "here" is, I guess you're right. A great many professional baseball stadiums have bullpens on the field, and the vast majority of high school and college yards here in the baseball hotbed of the United States, the SoCal area, feature them as well.

SanDiegoSteve Thu Oct 23, 2008 03:06am

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 544848)
Mybe where you live, but not everywhere.

Maybe not where you live, but everywhere else.

You can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting a field with bullpens down the line. I just don't see what the big deal and drama is about that to start with. Anyone ever watched an MLB game? Chock full of bullpens down the foul lines. All over the country, too. Not a regional thing, dude.

Rich Ives Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:27am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 545016)
Maybe not where you live, but everywhere else.

You can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting a field with bullpens down the line. I just don't see what the big deal and drama is about that to start with. Anyone ever watched an MLB game? Chock full of bullpens down the foul lines. All over the country, too. Not a regional thing, dude.


Actually, I don't think either of use has toured the country enough to be able to reach a definitive conclusion.

Kevin Finnerty Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:31am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 545016)
Maybe not where you live, but everywhere else.

You can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting a field with bullpens down the line. I just don't see what the big deal and drama is about that to start with. Anyone ever watched an MLB game? Chock full of bullpens down the foul lines. All over the country, too. Not a regional thing, dude.

The use of "dude" is a regional thing, however.

SanDiegoSteve Fri Oct 24, 2008 05:29pm

Surf's up, dude!
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 545073)
The use of "dude" is a regional thing, however.

:):):):):):)

SanDiegoSteve Fri Oct 24, 2008 05:33pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 545072)
Actually, I don't think either of use has toured the country enough to be able to reach a definitive conclusion.

Actually I've toured the country quite a bit. But I have also watched a whole bunch of big league games on TV and in person, and have seen bullpens down the lines - on the field - in a great many ballparks and stadiums from sea to shining sea, God Bless America:cool:


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