Mlb fpsr?!?!

[UmpJM]

I was just watching the end of the Phillies v. Brewers game Saturday night, and I was wondering if anyone knew when MLB instituted the FPSR.

Somehow, that had escaped me.

JM

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

I was just watching the end of the Phillies v. Brewers game Saturday night, and I was wondering if anyone knew when MLB instituted the FPSR.

Somehow, that had escaped me.

JM

Maybe this will help.


MLBUM 6.3

GUIDELINES:
In sliding to a base, the runner should be able to reach the base with his hand or foot.

A runner who, in the judgment of the umpire, contacts or attempts to make contact with a fielder with a slide or roll block that is not a bona fide effort to reach and stay on the base may be called out for interference and, when appropriate, a double play may be called.

Any definite change in direction by the runner to contact the fielder would be considered interference.

If a runner hits the dirt, slides, and rolls, it does not constitute a rolling block unless the runner leaves his feet and makes contact with the fielder before the runner slides on the ground. If the initial contact is with the fielder instead of the ground for the purpose of breaking up a double play, it is a roll block.

[jwwashburn]

Obstruction on DP costs Phillies a run

Umps take away tally in ninth after Victorino's interference

What more can be said?

Joe in Missouri

[tjones1]

Anthony DiComo is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


Obviously.

Funny how he interchanges interference and obstruction.

But... say hey,... I love this town.

[SethPDX]

Well, I could say the Phillies lost by three runs.

I really do not care anymore whether a writer or broadcaster uses the correct term to describe interference or obstruction.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Anthony DiComo is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


Obviously.

Funny how he interchanges interference and obstruction.

But... say hey,... I love this town.

I have read and reread this article several times, and I have yet to come across the word "obstruction" in any form or fashion. What article are you reading? The guy called it interference the entire article. Only Joe in Missouri called it obstruction, not the author of the article.

[Rich]

I was there. I'm surprised it took a manager coming out and a conference of six major league umpires to put the runners back.

Meaningless in the scheme of things. There were still two outs in the 9th and the Phils still needed 2 hits or a home run in that situation to tie the game. After the next batter grounded out weakly to the pitcher, the only thing affected was the final score.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I have read and reread this article several times, and I have yet to come across the word "obstruction" in any form or fashion. What article are you reading? The guy called it interference the entire article. Only Joe in Missouri called it obstruction, not the author of the article.

Steve

It appears they have updated it from the time you read it and when I read it. The title had "obstruction" in it and the body did too.

I assume someone pointed this out to him after-the-fact.

[justanotherblue]

OH.... yeah, I missed that little kiss at the end of the play... what can I say, I was drinking a cold one and cooking dinner. I can agree with the call now.

[KJUmp]

I'm new. FPSR? Someone please let me know it stands for. Have enjoyed reading everyone's opinion of the play.

[BigUmp56]

FPSR = Force Play Slide Rule.

It's an NCAA and NFHS rule.



Tim.

[tballump]

Did Jim Joyce actually call interference on the original play? It would seem that if he did, he would have immediately called interference and then time and then pointed at first base and called the batter runner out and then told each runner to go back to their original base. There would have been no need for the Milwaukee manager to come out and ask about the play or where the runners should be placed. Charlie might have come out but not Phil.

Or, did Jim Joyce not see the interference (hip action) because he was positioned on the 3rd base side of 2nd base, and when the Milwaukee manager inquired, he asked Fielding Culbreth if he had a better view, looking right down the basepath from the 2nd base side? Then interference was called and the runners called back.

This would be much like the old play (Yankes, Dodgers) from the dark ages on Reggie Jackson years ago, where Frank Pulli asked Joe Brinkman if Reggie intentionally stuck out his hip to deflect the ball or was he just off balance because of the play, since Joe had a clearer view right down the line whereas Pulli was back behind 1st base.

Anyway, in the post-game conference after the game, Charlie said Jimmy Williams told him to protest. Charlie asked him if he knew the rule about the placement of runners on the interference. Jimmy said no, so Charlie said he felt he should just leave well enough alone, since he didn't know either.

So, Jimmy Williams (who's older than dirt and a waiter at the last supper) would have protested just to protest, just to make himself look good to the Phillie fans and front office back home and try to cover his backside. He would have protested without ever going to the trouble to learn the rules himself (come on he's had since the last supper), so he would know when to protest and when not to protest. And you want to know why some poster's call them rats. Need I say more?

Tim_C Help us out here on the play, cause I am just guessing Jim Joyce is in your neck of the woods and is a darn good umpire or he would not be working the 5th and deciding game (if needed) on the plate. Maybe he'll get the WS also.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by tballump

Did Jim Joyce actually call interference on the original play? It would seem that if he did, he would have immediately called interference and then time and then pointed at first base and called the batter runner out and then told each runner to go back to their original base. There would have been no need for the Milwaukee manager to come out and ask about the play or where the runners should be placed. Charlie might have come out but not Phil.

Or, did Jim Joyce not see the interference (hip action) because he was positioned on the 3rd base side of 2nd base, and when the Milwaukee manager inquired, he asked Fielding Culbreth if he had a better view, looking right down the basepath from the 2nd base side? Then interference was called and the runners called back.

This would be much like the old play (Yankes, Dodgers) from the dark ages on Reggie Jackson years ago, where Frank Pulli asked Joe Brinkman if Reggie intentionally stuck out his hip to deflect the ball or was he just off balance because of the play, since Joe had a clearer view right down the line whereas Pulli was back behind 1st base.

Anyway, in the post-game conference after the game, Charlie said Jimmy Williams told him to protest. Charlie asked him if he knew the rule about the placement of runners on the interference. Jimmy said no, so Charlie said he felt he should just leave well enough alone, since he didn't know either.

So, Jimmy Williams (who's older than dirt and a waiter at the last supper) would have protested just to protest, just to make himself look good to the Phillie fans and front office back home and try to cover his backside. He would have protested without ever going to the trouble to learn the rules himself (come on he's had since the last supper), so he would know when to protest and when not to protest. And you want to know why some poster's call them rats. Need I say more?

Tim_C Help us out here on the play, cause I am just guessing Jim Joyce is in your neck of the woods and is a darn good umpire or he would not be working the 5th and deciding game (if needed) on the plate. Maybe he'll get the WS also.

He called interference when it happened--he might not have been thinking of the other runners.

[PeteBooth]

Just like the FPSR IMO, the call the other night is not consistent.

In the Cubs / Dodgers series, Derek Lee slid into second base on the front end of a DP. Lee actually had his hand raised in the air which F4/F6 (can't remember) hit when throwing to first base.

Nothing was called.

The bottom line is this: It is a judgement call and just like the FPSR IMO, you will not see it called consistently from game to game.

Pete Booth

[Kevin Finnerty]

You are supposed to slide with your hands in the air. It is what instructors teach. It is a fundamental that helps in several ways. It is rare that a runner's hand gets hit like Lee's.