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Old Thu Sep 04, 2008, 10:11pm
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Insufficient evidence to overturn?

Here is a link to the Yankees website showing the play.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/media...16587&c_id=nyy

Right-handed batter Alex Rodriguez hit a high fly ball down the left field line. It crossed the home run wall well higher than the top of the foul pole, then hit a stadium wall maybe about 75 feet past the home run wall, and maybe about five or ten feet foul (there is a yellow vertical foul line painted on the stadium wall). A straight line from home to the contact point of course would have been foul, but this ball of course was presumedly hooking. So the third base ump has to make a judgment call about whether the ball was above fair territory when it left the field of play. OBR 7.05(a).

The camera angles were not the best, which would be looking right down the line. Assuming even a soft hook, it is pretty clear that the ball was at least ten feet fair when it passed over the home run wall.

But what if it were closer? What if the ball was within a foot of the foul line when it passed over the fence? Is the calling ump going to think, well, I think it was foul, but I'm going to call fair and let the replay camera make the final call. What if replays are inconclusive? Then the original call would stand. So giving the benefit of the doubt to the home run cannot be correct.
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Old Fri Sep 05, 2008, 07:45am
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Of course, if this abomination had never entered the game to begin with, we would have the umpire making his best judgment and living with it.

What a concept.
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Old Fri Sep 05, 2008, 01:37pm
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After seeing the replay of that obvious homerun, all I can say is wow. Umpires are going to lose a lot of respect for double checking calls such as these. So much for two centuries of tradition. Give it 50 years and every ball and strike call is going to be appealed to replay systems.

On the positive, I wouldn't mind being a behind the black curtain replay guy. Sit there for 3 hours a night, watch a ballgame, make good money, and maybe be called on to rewind a play once every 81 home games.
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Old Fri Sep 05, 2008, 10:25pm
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[QUOTE=canadaump6]After seeing the replay of that obvious homerun, all I can say is wow. Umpires are going to lose a lot of respect for double checking calls such as these. So much for two centuries of tradition. Give it 50 years and every ball and strike call is going to be appealed to replay systems.

Am I missing something? They got the call right. How is respect lost.As stated earlier, no calls have been reversed yet. Now that should be respected.

Defense manager thought he could buy one...can't hurt to ask for replay, now that it's available.

Replay has no place in baseball. Period.

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Old Sat Sep 06, 2008, 08:25pm
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Consulting the replay system shows that the umpire's were not confident about their call. This looks bad on MLB umpires. It's just like appealing to your partner about any play. The umpire responsible for the call should get it right the first time, and not be persuaded to get a second opinion.
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Old Sun Sep 07, 2008, 02:24am
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A-Rod's HR stroke

Allow those big wireless companies to replace the foul poles with taller cell towers.
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Old Mon Sep 08, 2008, 12:03pm
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Consulting the replay system shows that the umpire's were not confident about their call. This looks bad on MLB umpires. It's just like appealing to your partner about any play. The umpire responsible for the call should get it right the first time, and not be persuaded to get a second opinion.
So MLB put the replay system into effect...but the umpires can refuse to use it citing..." I got it right"...?

Didn't know that........

So what exactly has to happen to use the replay system? What am I missing

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Old Mon Sep 08, 2008, 12:54pm
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So MLB put the replay system into effect...but the umpires can refuse to use it citing..." I got it right"...?

Didn't know that........

So what exactly has to happen to use the replay system? What am I missing

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Much like a coach's request that you ask your partner for help, the crew chief decides if the crew wants help.
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