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Ump99, for argument sake, I'm going to assume what you have written is true. I hope for your sake it isn't.
The only currency that we trade on is our ability to be impartial and be honest. We should be making our calls based on what we see, and not be influenced by our feelings, the game situation or any other factors. I know this is an ideal, but more often than not we do this. You don't think that this coach is going to file this away in his memory? You don't think that this isn't going to be talked about between other coach's? Once you lose credibility as an umpire you have lost everything. If you actually have done what you claim in this post, you have done a grave disservice to the rest of us.
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Wed Sep 03, 2008, 06:42pm
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A lot of the same people bashing the OP fail to realize that they are the ones who support the "outs make the game move quicker" philosophy. Ozzy himself used to use the signature "When in doubt, call him out". How many times have people here praised the mercy rule for helping them get home sooner, or said they would take an extra strike (on a check swing) even if they didn't think the batter went around? Even opening up the strike zone could be considered "cheating", regardless of the score. Umpire99 is not the first person to adopt the attitude of calling more strikes and outs to get the game over with.
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Wed Sep 03, 2008, 06:45pm
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Wed Sep 03, 2008, 06:50pm
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On your check swing analogy, we are talking about getting a strike back that did happen. Nobody is saying to make a strike up, just we want to get it back if it happened. The mercy rule is an actual rule, by following it, we get home sooner. But its not like we make it up, as the OP did. No good umpire agrees with opening the strike zone. And the "when in doubt, call him out" philosophy is for when those select moments happen where the human eye is incapable of distinguishing which event happened first (ball or foot). Not even a philosophy, a rule. The runner has to BEAT the ball. So, if we can't tell if he beat it, then he would be... OUT. Stop taking on the world, particularly when it comes to umpiring. Don't act like everything everybody says is inherently wrong or always take the minority position so you can pick a fight. Not only is it annoying, it will NOT impress evaluators/assignors, it will piss off game participants, and, most importantly, it will NOT make you a good umpire. Sorry to be blunt, but its a recurring theme with you. Maybe you'll listen to a young guy like me rather than some of the vets on the board.
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Wed Sep 03, 2008, 07:31pm
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 Oh my...Tuss gave a good, reasoned, serious answer. I'll give credit where it's due for that, because all I can say right now is, wow. Just...wow. Outs that are supported by the rules do make the game move faster.
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Thu Sep 04, 2008, 06:06am
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When in doubt, bang 'em out! Ozzy
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Thu Sep 04, 2008, 06:49am
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I think our poster is a fairly common type. I'm judging by my experience of having been accused of this kind of cheating on out calls late in the game (usually regardless of score): any banger after the 5th risks a remark like "he's got a date" or "he must be hungry."
Of course, rats don't need an excuse to accuse someone of cheating, but they've probably seen it from time to time. I bet this poster didn't expect the reaction he got, though...
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Thu Sep 04, 2008, 08:52am
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I agree 100 % ...... This is "the" point.....everytime someone does something like this, it hurts the rest of us........I get every out and strike the rules allow honestly........we need to follow the military academies honor code.........we wont cheat or tolerate those that do.................
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Thu Sep 04, 2008, 09:08am
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Funny
It is funny how you guys get on here and tear each other apart. Had this post been made by the coach about how the umpire told him that the call would have been different in a close game you guys would have ripped the coach for complaining. Someone would have probably told the coach that he was completely wrong and that he had no idea if the umpire was making the call because of the score. Even though the umpire actually told the coach that he would have called it differently.
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Thu Sep 04, 2008, 09:25am
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The subject was about two umpires: one who is tactless and unfair, and one who is simply unfair. Both are objectionable to many of us. Why is that hard to understand?
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Thu Sep 04, 2008, 10:35am
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Thu Sep 04, 2008, 10:39am
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... So, how you been, Ozzy? And just so you know, I always took your quote at the bottom as a quip and not your credo. 
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Thu Sep 04, 2008, 10:49am
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