Base Umpire Hit By Thrown Ball

[Blue316]

Yesterday in the Cleveland Indians game, a runner was trying to steal second. The throw from the catcher hit the second base umpire and went into center field. The runner then went to third. However, the second base umpire killed the play, and made the runner return to second. Is this the correct call. In high school ball, the ball remains live and in play correct?

[Bfair]

Ball should remain live in all codes unless the thrown ball lodges in the umpire's clothing.

Umpire blew it.


Just my opinion,

[night_ninja]

Note Rule 5.08 of The Official Rules of Baseball

If a thrown ball accidentally touches a base coach, or a pitched or thrown ball touches an umpire, the ball is alive and in play. However, if the coach interferes with a thrown ball, the runner is out.

According to this rule, the umpire did blow it.

[Blue316]

That is what I thought. Rule 5.08 correct?

[Clint]

Yes the umpire is just as much of part of the field as the fielders. Just as a batter in the batters circle or the coah in the coaching box is part of the field.

[greymule]

Wish I had seen the play. Did the manager of the offensive team argue the call?

Hard to believe a MLB ump made that call. Maybe something else happened (can't imagine what, though) that wasn't apparent to the viewers. Did the announcers comment or just assure everyone that the ump was correct?

[Tim C]

Please note that the original post was made on APRIL 23rd.

It was discussed a lot on other boards.

The umpire admitted that he had errored and this went away.

We have enough "re-hash" stuff (i.e. "Are the hands part of the bat") that we certainly don't need to go back and find stuff like this.

[bluezebra]

"Yes the umpire is just as much of part of the field"

And that dear people, is why we're considered as dirt.

Bob

[Gold_Spark]

If the umpire is located in position B or C and is hit by a BATTED ball . . . the play becomes dead and the batter is awarded a hit.

Is that right?

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by Gold_Spark
If the umpire is located in position B or C and is hit by a BATTED ball . . . the play becomes dead and the batter is awarded a hit.

Is that right?

Generally, yes.

[spots101]

Yesterday a 3B umpire in the Majors was hit by a batted ball. It stopped right near F5 and he picked it up and threw out the BR who had rounded 1B too far thinking it had gone into left field.

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by spots101
Yesterday a 3B umpire in the Majors was hit by a batted ball. It stopped right near F5 and he picked it up and threw out the BR who had rounded 1B too far thinking it had gone into left field.

Probably the right call (unless U3 and / or F5 were staniding in a spot they don't normally stand in).

[spots101]

If this were to happen in FED (BU gets hit by a batted ball while in A position) then the ball would be dead based on 2-21-2 and 5-1-1f(1) OR would it be a live ball because it already passed F3 OR is the ball alive based on the fact that the umpire, in this position (A),is part of the field just like a base. That was the basis of the ruling in the above mentioned play (OBR).

[Gold_Spark]

the ball would be live because it had already passed F3 before it hit the umpire.

If I'm not mistaken, the only time the ball becomes dead is if it hits the umpire before a fielder (excluding the pitcher) has an opportunity to field it.

I'm sure there will be clarifications.