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Old Mon Jul 21, 2008, 01:05pm
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Originally Posted by LMan
Meh. The fact that the player chose to show him up by screaming it for a third time says he was tired and didn't feel like playing any more that day. When a player makes sure that the entire county hears it, he's publicly challenged the umpire and raised the stakes for himself.

"if you don't stop yelling, Junior, you'll go to timeout."
Recall, in the original post, the player's initial reactions was not to yell at the umpire but to say "he's off the bag." If he yell's to start with you have to handle it differently. Maybe you start with "Let it go!" or "knock it off" stated vehemently with your hand up in the stop sign.

The question was could I have done something differently. Here we are trying to prevent the issue from getting to the third time. Not what to do after the third time. I think it important that we stick to the question at hand ie, could I have prevented this? The question was not what do you do when someone yells at you for the third time. The reason it is important is that different question require different answers. Recall in Tuss's situation he responded to the player not once, but twice hence my "rabbit season duck season" metaphor. So the starting point is no question asked no response needed and moving to your next position.

Other things equal, we would prefer not to run individuals. Which is not to say "let them sh!t on you," instead it's to say it seems to work better if we keep it from escalating to the sh!tting by addressing situations appropriately before they escalate.

So, LMan, lets address the question posed by Tuss here. We agree that when somebody yells for the third time he needs to be excused from further participation in reindeer games.
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