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Old Sat Jul 19, 2008, 11:24pm
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Yes, and Cousins kept me up late for the All-Star game when he blew the call at the plate in the 11th.

Umpires miss calls all the time.

Like in game 163 last year, Padres-Rockies game where Matt Holliday still hasn't touched home plate.

As Kurtis Blow wanted you to know, these are the breaks.
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Old Sun Jul 20, 2008, 12:16am
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Look at the last angle again. It is possible that the O's catcher had the plate completely blocked, so Polanco never touched it.
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Old Sun Jul 20, 2008, 09:12am
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Look at the last angle again. It is possible that the O's catcher had the plate completely blocked, so Polanco never touched it.
Look at RECAP at the 2:24 mark. Polly was way safe. Foot on the plate before the O's catcher caught the throw.

I do not have detailed stats but, I think Runge is a dolt.

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Old Sun Jul 20, 2008, 11:08am
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Foot on the plate before the O's catcher caught the throw.
No, the runner touched the plate and the fielder's glove was still 6 or 8 inches away. You're as bad as that idiot manager that yells that the runner beat the play by 3 steps on a banger at first base.
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Old Sun Jul 20, 2008, 03:01pm
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Does anyone think Brian was a little too close on both those plays at the plate?
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Old Sun Jul 20, 2008, 03:38pm
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Runge was not too close, as it was a tag play. You are supposed to be close to tag plays. He was in perfect position on 3BLX and correctly ascertained that the runner's front leg crossed over the plate without touching it. He was then tagged by the catcher before his trail leg touched the plate (the only leg that touched the plate).

Only a real homer (mmm...unexplained bacon) would argue this. Polanco gave up his argument quickly, as he knew he didn't really touch the plate, and no manager came out to get ejected, as you would have thought.

And none of the Runge's are "dolts." Not Ed, not Paul, and not Brian. Brian earned his way to where he's gotten. His job wasn't just handed to him. I'm sure his little quip at the clinic was said tongue-in-cheek, as Brian has had plenty of bangers in his career and probably much closer plays than a stupid little "clinic play."
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Old Sun Jul 20, 2008, 04:31pm
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[QUOTE=He was then tagged by the catcher before his trail leg touched the plate (the only leg that touched the plate)."[/QUOTE]




I dont want to argue, but I would disagree. Also I don't think Brian is a poor Umpire, he may have blown one and it went in my teams favor. $h1t happens! Check out the pics my son got from the video, it appears the runners foot is on the plate(at least to me).But the beauty of baseball is that nobody had a better view than Brian.



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Old Sun Jul 20, 2008, 07:18pm
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Beg to differ. He kicked the call. Get off his jock just because you know him. We understand that. I honestly think that Marty Brennaman is right and it's not a coincidence that sh!t happens every time he's behind the dish.

All three of his ejections have been his fault because he screwed up.
I'm not sniffing his jock at all. I know him, but we're not buddies or anything. I call sh!t either as it is or as I see it. From looking at the crappy video on MLB and the crappy still photos I've seen, I can't really tell if the plate is being touched.

And then there is the fact that twice I mentioned that umpires miss calls, which is to say "get over it." So, I twice admitted the possibility of a blown call. But from what I saw, it looked like his leg was in the air. I'm not defending Runge on a personal level, just basing it on what I saw in the crappy video clip.

The ejections were deemed to have been on correct calls by an independant source. I'm not making anything up. Plus, Manuel had no business coming out, and I would have run him much sooner myself, like as soon as he started arguing balls and strikes. Runge takes too much crap, IMO. And he tried to keep motormouth Beltran in the game, but the little pendejo couldn't keep his boca shut. Runge gave him chance after chance to pipe down, and just couldn't do it.

And as far as jock straps go, Brennaman couldn't hold Vin Scully's or Harry Kalas'. Highly overrated. Boy, oh boy!
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Old Sun Jul 20, 2008, 08:53pm
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Runge was not too close, as it was a tag play. You are supposed to be close to tag plays. He was in perfect position on 3BLX and correctly ascertained that the runner's front leg crossed over the plate without touching it. He was then tagged by the catcher before his trail leg touched the plate (the only leg that touched the plate).

Only a real homer (mmm...unexplained bacon) would argue this. Polanco gave up his argument quickly, as he knew he didn't really touch the plate, and no manager came out to get ejected, as you would have thought.

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Watch it again. He was clearly safe. His foot wasn't even in the air. Leyland got it right after the game when he said umpires make mistakes but that isn't why we lost. We had a 6-0 lead and the umps didn't cost us the game.
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Old Sun Jul 20, 2008, 06:23pm
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Does anyone think Brian was a little too close on both those plays at the plate?
I think that the fan with the broken nose is more important than worrying about this call!
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Old Sun Jul 20, 2008, 03:50pm
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I do not have detailed stats
I do. Brian Runge has had 3 ejections this season, 2 of which were on one call (Manuel, Beltran). Both calls that led to the ejections were the correct calls. He doesn't blow that many calls to start with.
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Old Sun Jul 20, 2008, 04:22pm
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I do. Brian Runge has had 3 ejections this season, 2 of which were on one call (Manuel, Beltran). Both calls that led to the ejections were the correct calls. He doesn't blow that many calls to start with.
But, Polanco is little Joe's favorite player!

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