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Jurassic Referee Fri Jun 20, 2008 06:24am

Switch-Hitter vs Switch-Pitcher
 
This one came up in a minor league game last night between the Staten Island Yankees and the Brooklyn Cyclones. Ninth inning-- with a switch-hitter up. Pitching is a player who throws from either side also, depending on the batter's location. The problem was that neither player would commit to a side for the first pitch. They both kept fandangoing back and forth. Apparently, and I sureashell don't know, the rules say that both the pitcher and hitter can switch one time after committing to a side. The problem seemed to be that the rules don't state who has to commit first- the pitcher or batter. Soooooo, both players kept switching as soon as the other one moved. The decision finally made by the umpires(before global warming put the ballpark underwater) was that the batter had to commit first.

Thoughts?

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06202008...ion_116313.htm

JugglingReferee Fri Jun 20, 2008 07:40am

The batter committing first makes more sense to this non-baseball guy.

dash_riprock Fri Jun 20, 2008 07:51am

FED and NCAA require the pitcher to face the batter as a righty or lefty, but not both, so the pitcher has to commit. Don't know about OBR.

JugglingReferee Fri Jun 20, 2008 07:53am

:D - this story made headlines on TSN - one of Canada's ESPN-like channels.

JugglingReferee Fri Jun 20, 2008 07:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dash_riprock
FED and NCAA require the pitcher to face the batter as a righty or lefty, but not both, so the pitcher has to commit. Don't know about OBR.

Can I ask what the rationale is for this method?

dash_riprock Fri Jun 20, 2008 08:03am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
Can I ask what the rationale is for this method?

I imagine the rationale was "pick one."

Rich Ives Fri Jun 20, 2008 08:22am

In OBR each can switch once.


In reality it will always be the pitcher who switches first because the batter will pick a side as he steps up. The pitcher will then switch. The batter will then switch.

dash_riprock Fri Jun 20, 2008 08:33am

If the batter has to be in the box before the pitcher takes the rubber, then the batter will switch first.

BigTex Fri Jun 20, 2008 09:03am

There is no rule that states that the pitcher must wear a glove. What is stopping the pitcher from standing facing the batter with both feet on the rubber and the ball in front of him in both bare hands. (wind-up position) Once the batter gets in the box, the pitcher can then decide which foot to use as his pivot foot, and go from there with the corresponding hand.

Rich Ives Fri Jun 20, 2008 09:22am

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Originally Posted by dash_riprock
If the batter has to be in the box before the pitcher takes the rubber, then the batter will switch first.

If the pitcher was pitching RH to the last batter then changing to LH is a switch is it not?

dash_riprock Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:00am

That's one way to look at it. Another way is the pitcher starts over with each batter. In the Cyclone's game, RH pitcher ultimately faced RH batter, so the pitcher got the last switch.

Rich Ives Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:47am

Quote:

Originally Posted by dash_riprock
That's one way to look at it. Another way is the pitcher starts over with each batter. In the Cyclone's game, RH pitcher ultimately faced RH batter, so the pitcher got the last switch.

But then from the video it didn't look like anyone knew how to handle it.

dash_riprock Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:52am

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives
But then from the video it didn't look like anyone knew how to handle it.

Do you think they got it wrong?

Rich Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives
But then from the video it didn't look like anyone knew how to handle it.

Ejecting the pitcher would solve EVERYTHING.

ODJ Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigTex
There is no rule that states that the pitcher must wear a glove. What is stopping the pitcher from standing facing the batter with both feet on the rubber and the ball in front of him in both bare hands. (wind-up position) Once the batter gets in the box, the pitcher can then decide which foot to use as his pivot foot, and go from there with the corresponding hand.

COOL!! :cool:


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