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Old Sun Jun 08, 2008, 09:00pm
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I'm pretty sure that stance where the guy puts he knee on the ground is called the knee
It sure started out looking like the scissors until he goes down during the pitch. And I thought the "knee" was for little league.
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And I thought the "knee" was for little league.
Where did you hear this?

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At a clinic earlier this year we were told by Rob Drake that MLB is discouraging the scissors out of fear of injury to the vertebrae of the neck from foul balls off the mask/HSM. Your head stays locked and rigid and the energy of the impact is absorbed by the neck.

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Old Mon Jun 09, 2008, 07:43am
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NCAA Softball officials all do things the same way: They are too rigid, too robotic.

NCAA Baseball officials all do things differently: Can't there be any standards?

Lah me.
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Old Mon Jun 09, 2008, 07:37pm
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When I started umping 30 years ago I worked the box, or GD, if you will. I switched to the scissors about 15 years ago after getting rocked a few times too often one season - I needed something to "lock me in" better, and the scissors fit the bill. This year I switched back to the GD because it was easier on my hip, but I switched back to the scissors for my final two weekends of the year - a conference tournament and a Regional. It was like riding a bicycle. Next year I hope to go back to the GD and work hard at it to make it as automatic as the scissors for me. There is no "right way" - there's only a "right way for you". Keep working at it until you get comfortable.
Oh, the six umpires in my Regional were split 3-3 with scissors and box.
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Old Wed Jun 11, 2008, 09:14pm
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NCAA Softball officials all do things the same way: They are too rigid, too robotic.

NCAA Baseball officials all do things differently: Can't there be any standards?

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I quess that is the definition of the same-difference.

Most coaches will probably tell ya that their biggest concern is, "consistency"
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Looking like a robot, standing, kneeling, scissors, having the right color shirt are all pretty things , but they don't mean squat diddly if you can't make consistent calls in a game and consistent interpretaions from one game to the next.

As already stated here, many styles and paraphanalia differed, but the calls and rules enforcement, were consistent.
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Old Thu Jun 12, 2008, 02:33am
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I quess that is the definition of the same-difference.

Most coaches will probably tell ya that their biggest concern is, "consistency"
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Looking like a robot, standing, kneeling, scissors, having the right color shirt are all pretty things , but they don't mean squat diddly if you can't make consistent calls in a game and consistent interpretaions from one game to the next.

As already stated here, many styles and paraphanalia differed, but the calls and rules enforcement, were consistent.
Unfortunately, in many cases the umpiring is very consistent...consistently bad!
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Old Mon Jun 09, 2008, 11:25pm
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Where did you hear this?

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Wally Bell, Tim McClelland, Brian Runge and Joe Brinkman (Okay, so 3 of 4 eventually switched to something else, but you get the point).
I get the point, I think, hardly ever used. Is that it?
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I get the point, I think, hardly ever used. Is that it?
Close enough. Not only for LL was the point, but close enough.
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