Rulebook 8.05 Comment
8.05 Comment: b) With a runner on first base the pitcher may make a complete turn, without hesitating toward first, and throw to second. This is not to be interpreted as throwing to an unnoccupied base.
Some umpires in my association weren't sure what this wording implies. Does it mean that the pitcher can start his motion and wheel to second regardless of whether R1 is stealing? Or does R1 have to be stealing before he throws to second base? One would think that everytime there is R1, 2 out and a 3-2 count, the pitcher would simply do his leg kick, then whirl around and throw out R1 at 2nd, but I never see this done. |
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Base runners should not leave on a 3-2 count with two outs until they are certain that the pitcher has committed to home plate. The majority of baserunners won't fall for any shenanigans from the pitcher. When the pitcher moves forward toward the plate with his kick leg, he can no longer make that move to second base. He must lift his non pivot leg and immediately do one of the following 3 things: a) spin around toward second, b) step and throw to first, or c) pitch the ball. If he hesitates with his leg in the air or first steps toward first, he then cannot throw or feint to second. |
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WITHOUT the comment, too many players, coaches and even umpires would say that "F1 made a move toward first (the counterclockwise movement) and didn't throw to first, so it's a balk." The CMT makes it clear that as long as there's not a step (or other "hesitation") to first as part of this move, the move is legal. |
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To me, the wording implies that so long as there is a runner at 1B, the pitcher may throw to 2B without the penalty for throwing to an unoccupied base. What am I missing? |
You're missing the meaning of "unoccupied base" and the only reasonable interpretation of the rule, which has already been posted.
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Thanks for the clarification guys.
While we're on the subject, I had always thought that with R1, a right handed pitcher had to step directly towards first base to try a pickoff, and bringing the free foot up committed him to throwing to home plate. If he brings his free foot straight up, is it now not impossible for the pitcher to step towards first and throw without first stepping towards home plate? |
not impossible... although its normally followed by a step of the pivot foot in order to gain balance...
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"If I see the underside of your free foot, you'd better go to the plate!" Pitchers are notorious for raising their foot nice and high when they want to pitch. So when they attempt to fool the runner, they usually mess up in this regard. That is why I taught my son a good slide step move. |
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I see ID theft is again popular on this site. I guess when "canadaump6_ " didn't work out, another target was needed.
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I'm still baffled as to why I don't see the balance point, then spin and throw to second base move ever performed. If a right handed pitcher goes into his balance point and hears someone say "he's going", he can easily spin and throw to second to get the runner.
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