When a player deliberately removes his helmet while the ball is live....

IndianaUmpRef · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 19, 2002, 01:01am

I know it is a delayed dead ball.... but does that constitute the runner being out?

And can you give me the rule reference??? All I find is delayed dead ball, which says nothing about the runner being out (I don't think).'

Thanks

#2 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 19, 2002, 01:28am

I don't have my rulebook handy to give a rule but that's a delayed dead ball, team warning, and ejection for subsequent infractions.

IndianaUmpRef · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 19, 2002, 01:33am

And the batter is NOT OUT. Correct??? (Given the batter isn't already out, which is why most batters/runners remove their helmet while still on the field of play in the first place).

Thanks.

Roger Greene · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 19, 2002, 02:33am

That's correct. The runner is not declared out for removing his helmet during a live ball. If he is on base at the end of playing action, after the warning has been issued and the ejection is in effect, just have him replaced by a legal sub.

The penalty can be found in 1-1-5.

Roger Greene

PeteBooth · #5 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 19, 2002, 07:45am

Originally posted by IndianaUmpRef

know it is a delayed dead ball.... but does that constitute the runner being out?

And can you give me the rule reference??? All I find is delayed dead ball, which says nothing about the runner being out (I don't think).'

Thanks

Check out Case play 1.1.5H
B4 receives a walk (not intentional). On his way to first base he removes his helmet to give it to the on-deck batter.

RULING:
This is a delayed dead-ball situation. At the end of playing action, B4 is not declared out . If a team warning previously had been given to that team, B4 would be ejected.

Pete Booth