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IndianaUmpRef Tue Mar 19, 2002 01:01am

I know it is a delayed dead ball.... but does that constitute the runner being out?

And can you give me the rule reference??? All I find is delayed dead ball, which says nothing about the runner being out (I don't think).'

Thanks

Michael Taylor Tue Mar 19, 2002 01:28am

I don't have my rulebook handy to give a rule but that's a delayed dead ball, team warning, and ejection for subsequent infractions.

IndianaUmpRef Tue Mar 19, 2002 01:33am

And the batter is NOT OUT. Correct??? (Given the batter isn't already out, which is why most batters/runners remove their helmet while still on the field of play in the first place).

Thanks.

Roger Greene Tue Mar 19, 2002 02:33am

That's correct. The runner is not declared out for removing his helmet during a live ball. If he is on base at the end of playing action, after the warning has been issued and the ejection is in effect, just have him replaced by a legal sub.

The penalty can be found in 1-1-5.

Roger Greene

PeteBooth Tue Mar 19, 2002 07:45am

<i> Originally posted by IndianaUmpRef </i>

<b> know it is a delayed dead ball.... but does that constitute the runner being out?

And can you give me the rule reference??? All I find is delayed dead ball, which says nothing about the runner being out (I don't think).'

Thanks </b>

Check out Case play 1.1.5H
B4 receives a walk (not intentional). On his way to first base he removes his helmet to give it to the on-deck batter.

<b> RULING: </b>
This is a delayed dead-ball situation. At the end of playing action, B4 is <b> not declared out </b>. If a team warning previously had been given to that team, B4 would be ejected.

Pete Booth


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