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Old Sun Apr 06, 2008, 10:07am
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Bases loaded, 1 one out. Jose Reyes hits a diving line drive to Kotsay in CF. Kotsay traps the ball (it was pretty obvious to me on live TV) and Bruce Dreckman rules it a catch. Mets are fuming. Willie Randolph comes out to argue and the crew huddles. Note: The Braves got a double play because R2 did not tag up after he saw the ball hit the turf. Gerry Davis and his crew decided to credit each runner including the B-R with one base and allow one run to score. The kicker was that on the play the R2 passed R3 who stood on third thinking there had been a catch. Bobby Cox argued that the reversal of the call was OK but R2 should be called out because he passed R3. The umpires did not call R3 out.

All I can figure is that the crew realized that they had made a mistake and the only way to salvage it was to give each runner including the B-R one base.

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Hi Lawrence

It appears that MLB has adopted FED rule 10-2-3(l)

Rectify any situation in which an umpire's decision that was reversed has placed either team at a disadvantage.

Therefore, in the future there is precendent that in a game played under OBR rules we as umpires can "fix" it.

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Old Sun Apr 06, 2008, 11:27am
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Hi Lawrence

It appears that MLB has adopted FED rule 10-2-3(l)

Rectify any situation in which an umpire's decision that was reversed has placed either team at a disadvantage.

Therefore, in the future there is precendent that in a game played under OBR rules we as umpires can "fix" it.

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I'm not saying you're wrong, Peter, but I'd hate to have a "precendence" set on one example, when we might never know whether the crew is "admonished" over what they did or praised.

Once we see other examples, we might know.

And, the general example (catch / no-catch with runners) is listed in NCAA as something that should not be changed.
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Old Sun Apr 06, 2008, 12:51pm
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And, the general example (catch / no-catch with runners) is listed in NCAA as something that should not be changed.
Bob just to clarify

Are you saying that if the play in the Braves / Mets game was played under NCAA rules, then the DP would have stood?

IMO, that goes against what the NCAA has been saying meaning 'get the call right"

Bottom line: Give Gerry Davis credit. Even the infamous Bobby Cox didn't argue too much. His only "beef" was that he felt there should have been 2 outs (a runner passing another)

Also, IMO, even though it's only one instance it does set some kind or precedent in PRO ball to allow umpires to "fix" things.

I guess Rob Drake shut his site down just in time as IMO, his site would have over-loading with this play.

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