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MichaelVA2000 Sat Feb 23, 2008 03:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitump56
Fair enough. An extreme one, I have others.

Billy Martin is coaching the Yanks, it's 1977. Reggie "Steroids Not Me " jackson is in RF and suddenly dies of a massive heart attack. Before anyone can see Reggie flop to the ground, B hits a screamer to RF and Jackson's rigor mortis glove hand has the ball stick in it.:D

I'm thinking I'll get struck by lightning before that type of play scenario happens

SAump Sat Feb 23, 2008 04:01pm

Level of diffculty?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives
Why do you think this is a difficult call?

Expected THAPOTB, call it either hit-by pitch or foul ball, from someone standing in the 3B coaching box. :(
Failing to recognize the proper call made by a real umpire, in this case, BU56. :o
Stumped by that response, felt the call was far more difficult to make than that call to 9-1-1 in the OP. :rolleyes:

_Bruno_ Sat Feb 23, 2008 04:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAump
call it either hit-by pitch or foul ball

well, its either hit by pitch or a strike, but not a foul ball if the ball just hits the batter and not the bat :D

sri8527 Sat Feb 23, 2008 05:38pm

i think more often than not if the batter steps out either just before or right at the start of the pitchers motion, the pitcher stops on his own. i also think if he were too continue, most of us will "give" him the pitch. then deal with the situation as needed.

steve

MrUmpire Sat Feb 23, 2008 05:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadaump6
In between pitches, if he wants to step out and quickly take a signal, I have no problem with that. The rulebook doesn't allow this courtesy, but it is necessary if the batter wants to pick up a signal.

Where does the rulebook prohibit that? And don't respond with 6.02(b) as you did above. You left out: "6.02 (b)The batter shall not leave his position in the batter’s box after the pitcher comes to Set Position, or starts his windup."

That comes before the line you quoted: "The batter is not at liberty to step in and out of the batter’s box at will."

Clearly the rule is addressing the batter's actions when the pitcher comes set or starts his wind-up. Taking a sign in between pitches is not what is being addressed here.

While the minor leagues have added the requirement of one foot in the batter's box, the major leagues and the OBR have not.

ozzy6900 Sat Feb 23, 2008 05:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrUmpire
This thread belongs in the WOBW Hall of Fame. It just might provide the definitive insight to the nagging question: "Is Fitump fit to ump?"

I agree. This is probably the stupidest thread I have seen in a long time!

BigUmp56 Sat Feb 23, 2008 06:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzy6900
I agree. This is probably the stupidest thread I have seen in a long time!

It's right up there with the old Thomas White's "White wears white" thread.

Hope the headache's better, Ozz!


Tim.

DG Sat Feb 23, 2008 06:31pm

I'll play along for giggles. He ain't dead until pronounced dead by an authority having jurisdiction over dead. OUT.

Interested Ump Sun Feb 24, 2008 01:23am

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Originally Posted by fitump56
WoodyUmp posted that all outs can be defined, justified and referenced byt the rules.

http://forum.officiating.com/showpos...7&postcount=21

Don't know which rules he means but this statement is false by all rules I know (OBR, NCAA, FeD, Pony, Dixie, LL, AABC blah) including local rules.

Oh my, the Deej is on to something here. :p

Interested Ump Sun Feb 24, 2008 01:29am

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Originally Posted by DG
I'll play along for giggles. He ain't dead until pronounced dead by an authority having jurisdiction over dead. OUT.

Then if pronounced dead, do we have a review? If so, and the call is dead, dead when?

Interested Ump Sun Feb 24, 2008 01:31am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigUmp56
No such rule exists..................


All defensive players with the exception of the catcher shall be on fair territory when the ball is put into play. Dead or alive he would have met that requirement.


Tim.

So a coach can roll out a cadre of corpses, Tim? Fielding nine, eight in play, met the requirements, according to you.

Interested Ump Sun Feb 24, 2008 01:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrUmpire
This thread belongs in the WOBW Hall of Fame. It just might provide the definitive insight to the nagging question: "Is Fitump fit to ump?"

Perhaps a definitive for you, sadly you're miscued emotions bear you as a shallow interpreter of skills. Deej is as good as there is and the testamanet is the respect he receives universally on the field.

DonInKansas Sun Feb 24, 2008 04:56am

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Originally Posted by Interested Ump
Then if pronounced dead, do we have a review? If so, and the call is dead, dead when?

I cannot resist:
http://www.jubys.com/1998/98qx6463.jpg
As coroner, I coroned her,
I thoroughly examined her,
Not only is she merely dead,
She's really most sincerely dead.......

dash_riprock Sun Feb 24, 2008 08:18am

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha.

waltjp Sun Feb 24, 2008 08:26am

Please don't feed the trolls.


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