Part of the job?

[GarthB]

I wonder why the AMLU hasn't represented its membership in this issue.

[bobbybanaduck]

Originally Posted by GarthB

I wonder why the AMLU hasn't represented its membership in this issue.

becase it wasn't brought up. that was the first i've heard of josh's issues.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck

becase it wasn't brought up. that was the first i've heard of josh's issues.

Okie dokie.

From your experience, bobby...are these visitations something that happens in all levels of pro ball, or primarily at AAA and the majors?

[bobbybanaduck]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Okie dokie.

From your experience, bobby...are these visitations something that happens in all levels of pro ball, or primarily at AAA and the majors?

all levels, sir. and feel free to not call me bobby if you wish. that cat is no longer bagged.

[PeteBooth]

Hi Garth:

Just wondering since your son is attending school if he mentioned anything about the OP to you

Thanks

Pete Booth

[UMP25]

One of our umpires spent time in the minors and just left the game. Here's his account of the Baseball Chapel:

I read the article and it wasn't as bad as he biitched and moaned about. I know Josh and he is no good. The guy was always complaining about this and that, and it wasn't for the benefit of all umpires, but just for himself. I would guess at most half of the cities over my 7years had baseball chapel come to the umpires' room. They always visited the players, but not consistently with the umpires. Just like everything else, baseball forgets about the umpires, baseball chapel forgot about the umpires a majority of the time. In 2003, there was a Jewish guy on my crew, and we would tell the rep. from Baseball Chapel that he was Jewish. The guy then would talk about God in genera land not about Christianity vs. Judaism. Also, I know a lot of umpires who didn't want to meet with B.C., so they would leave the umpire room for 5 or 10 minutes (MAX). When he cries about having to leave the room in Columbus and walk among the fans while B.C. was visiting, we all had to do it one time or another. 99.99% of the people didn't know who the umpires were, so it wasn't a big deal. He is just complaining because of sour grapes for being released. After 3+years in AAA and no AZ. Fall League, umpires below him should be complaining about him taking a spot, because he had no chance of doing MLB games.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by UMP25

One of our umpires spent time in the minors and just left the game. Here's his account of the Baseball Chapel:

"And the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round..."

[Forest Ump]

Originally Posted by UMP25

One of our umpires spent time in the minors and just left the game. Here's his account of the Baseball Chapel: I read the article and it wasn't as bad as he biitched and moaned about. I know Josh and he is no good.

Ahhhhh the internet. Ain't it great.

We know Josh's name. He was not afraid to put it out there. If this person you quoted is going to disparage Josh, then we should know his name. Otherwise this umpire has no credibility.

[UMP25]

He has complete credibility. I've worked with him; I know him. He's regarded as one of the best umpires in the Midwest. If I had even a scintilla of doubt about his honesty or credibility, I would never have even mentioned it in the first place. My sharing it here is good enough.

BTW, I wouldn't call his comments about Josh disparaging unless you're willing to call Josh's comments about the Baseball Chapel equally disparaging.

[Forest Ump]

Originally Posted by UMP25

He has complete credibility. I've worked with him; I know him. He's regarded as one of the best umpires in the Midwest. If I had even a scintilla of doubt about his honesty or credibility, I would never have even mentioned it in the first place. My sharing it here is good enough.

BTW, I wouldn't call his comments about Josh disparaging unless you're willing to call Josh's comments about the Baseball Chapel equally disparaging.

What would you think if they added this at the end of the article; "An unknown source was quoted as saying" I know Josh and he is no good. The guy was always complaining about this and that...yada, yada, yada."

That's where credibility comes into play. If you want to print that a man is no good, then back it up with a name source. The fact that you know this person who wrote this may have credibility in a small circle of people, but it does not lend credibility over the world wide web. Myself, I would not write that someone said that a man is no good. That's slander.

Also, I would never use the NYT to line my bird cage. That's what the LA Times is for.

On a side note: I umpired my first game of the season today. It was a 10 inning scrimmage so some of the real game attitude was missing. It was still great to get back out there.

[lawump]

The Rule on the Locker Room Door says one thing: No one admitted. My partner(s) and I broke this only once (on seperate occasions) to let our fathers in to our locker room (after a game). There were no other exceptions. If you weren't an umpire or working for the umpire (re: ball boy) you weren't coming in. (PBUC supervisors are umpires).

The suggestion that an umpire should have to be preached to (by a leader of a religion he doesn't believe in) or leave the lockerroom (his office) for even 5 minutes before a game is repulsive.

I admit that I have what I call "umpire OCD". On days when I worked the plate I had to do the same exact thing in the lockerroom during the hour before the game. I was a creature of habit. Too suggest I should have to leave my workspace, and stop my mental preparation for 3 hours of grueling work, so someone can come in and preach something that, frankly, I don't agree with or believe in is ridiculous.

I wonder how many umpires would be defending this if it were Muslim "preachers" seeking "just 5 minutes"? Instead of "baseball chapel" it was "baseball mosque"?

[Publius]

Also, I know a lot of umpires who didn't want to meet with B.C., so they would leave the umpire room for 5 or 10 minutes (MAX). When he cries about having to leave the room in Columbus and walk among the fans while B.C. was visiting, we all had to do it one time or another. 99.99% of the people didn't know who the umpires were, so it wasn't a big deal.

Was there equal time? How often did the BC folks and the umpires interested in hearing their message go out among the fans so the uninterested umpires could be alone in the room?

[UMP25]

I personally would prefer that such individuals not enter the locker room every Sunday. If I choose to go to church, I'd prefer to do so on my own. Having said that, one must also remember that the New York Times is a very anti-religious, ultraleft-wing publication, so such articles will always carry a biased point of view.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by UMP25

one must also remember that the New York Times is a very anti-religious, ultraleft-wing publication, so such articles will always carry a biased point of view.

You think the NY times is ULTRA left wing? You've lived a shetered life, my friend. I've seen left wing papers that make the Old Gray Lady look downright respectable.

[UMP25]

Hardly, Garth. The NYT is one of the most liberal publications around. Sure, there are others even more extreme, but the Times is so far to the Left that Ted Kennedy has to turn left just to see them.