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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 02:48am
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You're not gonna tell your supervisor about your plans to continue to balk a legal move {if it turns out to be legal}. If you're not sure that the quotes he provided were false, you shouldn't cast stones. Having the stones to balk a move like that should also have the stones to allow it if you hear it from supervisors you trust. How many times will you hear the rulebook has 200 and something errors before you learn not to lose your stones too soon? I would never balked a jump turn or a jab step to 1B. Not saying you are wrong. I am saying I disagree with your interpretation of the very FED rules you quoted. Can't say I was always right either. Would gladly overturn my "opinion" on the matter if told to do so by my supervisor, with or without proof.

Don't believe me? Check out the 2005 NCAA balk bulletin and the disaster that soon followed. The umps called more technical balks that year and by the end of the season, the spirit of the balk rule was back in effect. Same thing happened to the MLB Questec strike zone. The MLB umps called more rulebook high strikes that year and by the end of the season, the spirit of the belt-high strike rule was back in effect. Coaches get pissed and call above your head. Supervisors cut their losses when umps are proven wrong. Do you think the MLB ump who called the high strike said he would continue calling that way?
Simply, I believe that the move is deceptive to the base runner. While I do not have the Fed book handy either right now, I do not think it will be very hard to show that it IS in fact a balk in NFHS rules.

I don't not give a lick how the "pro's" interpret the rule. I umpire no games that play under OBR rules.
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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 02:50am
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Also, I argue MANY interpretations with my "supervisor". I win more times than not!
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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 11:49am
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Simply, I believe that the move is deceptive to the base runner.
While not commenting on the specific play at hand, I think you ought to discard this idea of "deceptive to the base runner," because pitchers are allowed to deceive baserunners. They do it all the time. They just can't illegally deceive them.
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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 02:21pm
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While not commenting on the specific play at hand, I think you ought to discard this idea of "deceptive to the base runner," because pitchers are allowed to deceive baserunners. They do it all the time. They just can't illegally deceive them.
Exactly. Deception alone is not sufficient to warrant a balk on the jab step.

HOWEVER: The OBR balk rule (iirc) provides some basic principles for calling balks. It also explicitly acknowledges that there will be borderline cases.

In borderline cases, where there is some doubt as to whether the pitcher has balked, the instruction is to evaluate whether the pitcher intended to deceive the runner. If so, balk; if not, let it go.

STILL: A properly performed jab step looks very similar to a jump step, which all seem to agree is legal. I accept the following reasoning:

1. Pro instruction is that the jab step is NOT a balk.
2. Though one reading of FED rules might have the jab step a balk, FED does not explicitly (for instance, in a casebook play) rule the jab step a balk.
3. In the absence of a FED ruling/interp specifically addressing this issue, I will go with pro instruction.

As I gaze into my crystal ball: FED will address this issue explicitly and issue an interp in the coming year that falls in line with MLB and NCAA regarding the jab step.
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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 02:33pm
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It's really not deceiving to the baserunner. All base runners are taught to watch the pivot foot of a RHP at first base. When the pivot foot moves, they go back.

I mean, if they allow a jump turn (where the pivot foot also moves toward third base), why would the jab step not be legal as well?

This move has been legal for a very long time. Don't try to be a crusader against it since it's not EXACTLY by the book. I guarantee if you don't balk this you will not hear a peep from either dugout all game. If you do balk it... well... good luck
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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 08:11pm
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In all rule interpretations I am aware off, the jab step is considered the same as a jump spin.

So long as the free foot gains distance and direction no balk. As with the jump spin, need to watch out for F1 simply pivoting on his free foot while bringing the pivot foot forward and/or toward 3B.
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