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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 04:12pm
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There's one other instance in baseball where a batter that's been HBP is not awarded first base, other than the reasons given in 6.08.


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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 04:16pm
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There's one other instance in baseball where a batter that's been HBP is not awarded first base, other than the reasons given in 6.08.


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Would that be if the batter intentionally allows or causes the pitch to hit him?
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Would that be if the batter intentionally allows or causes the pitch to hit him?
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm.................nope.


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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 04:22pm
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How about if the pitcher balked in his delivery and 1B was "open" or there were "non-consecutive" baserunners.

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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 04:28pm
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How about if the pitcher balked in his delivery and 1B was "open" or there were "non-consecutive" baserunners.

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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm,...........................yep.


You have to bring him back to the box if all other runners don't advance at least one base.

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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 05:10pm
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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm,...........................yep.


You have to bring him back to the box if all other runners don't advance at least one base.

Tim.
You blew it. If all other runners aren't forced to advance when the hitter is hit by the pitch. Runners cannot advance on a dead ball pitch which what it becomes when it hits the batter. Thus you have to take the results of the balk, not the results of the pitch. Are you clear for take off now.

FED, it doesn't matter. Ball is dead automatically, all runners advance one base regardless.
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 05:17pm
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Your petty little, and I do mean little, insults aside. I didn't blow a darned thing. John mentioned "non consecutive" runners. I didn't think I needed to clarify it any further. Well, at least not to most of the board I didn't.


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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 06:28pm
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Would that be if the batter intentionally allows or causes the pitch to hit him?
Not quite everyone.

Oh, the Humanity...............
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 07:58pm
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Not quite everyone.

Oh, the Humanity...............
I meant after Tim revealed the answer. We were all shooting down the runway in our respective Gulfstreams and Citation Xs ready to take off while you were in your Piper Cub taxiing out. Damn, this plane analogy is getting old.
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2007, 08:27pm
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Damn, this plane analogy is getting old.
Then, please, please, stop peeking at your ignore list and you won't have to watch the three crazy kamikazes crash and burn.
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Hmmmm....

I've always found that the "peeking" is not the problem.

Failing to resist the urge to respond, on the other hand...

JMO.

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Old Fri Nov 16, 2007, 12:21am
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I meant after Tim revealed the answer. We were all shooting down the runway in our respective Gulfstreams and Citation Xs ready to take off while you were in your Piper Cub taxiing out. Damn, this plane analogy is getting old.
Time revealed the answer unless all runners advance one base. Tell me when runners don't get to advance one base on a balk.

Now Steve, I knew the question to the answer. It was quite obvious in my post. Tim proposed the question, There's one other instance in baseball where a batter that's been HBP is not awarded first base, other than the reasons given in 6.08. Note the phrase other than the reason given in 6.08. What did you do. You gave a ruling found in 6.08.

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Would that be if the batter intentionally allows or causes the pitch to hit him?

Now I might be flying a Piper Cub, but it is all to obvious to most the rubber band broke on your aircraft a long time ago.....
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