A Two-fer

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

You don't have to take your eyes off of the play to give the good old heave-ho signal, Walter. The runners were just trotting on the ball four award anyway.


Tim.

The play is live. If you interrupt potential defensive actions, or offensive reactions, with an ejection, and I'm either coach, you got a real problem coming.

Me. Regardless of the the idiot pitcher who most certainly needed an ejection. At the appropriate time.

This is an ole Memphis/Atlanta baseball stunt. LHP, LHB, he's in for one B, let P get tossed inappropriately, who cares if he sits. Get everyone riled up including PU and have him become the cener of attention, emotions up, team up.

Not saying this was the case in the video but sophisticated baseball game managers know this manuever by heart. So you learn to make ejections at the right time, in the right way.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by fitump56

The play is live. If you interrupt potential defensive actions, or offensive reactions, with an ejection, and I'm either coach, you got a real problem coming.

Me. Regardless of the the idiot pitcher who most certainly needed an ejection. At the appropriate time.

This is an ole Memphis/Atlanta baseball stunt. LHP, LHB, he's in for one B, let P get tossed inappropriately, who cares if he sits. Get everyone riled up including PU and have him become the cener of attention, emotions up, team up.

Not saying this was the case in the video but sophisticated baseball game managers know this manuever by heart. So you learn to make ejections at the right time, in the right way.

If you are the coach that comes out, I doubt I would have any real problem. I would simply dump you right away also. I would not let it bother me to dump the pitcher, watch the remaining action until it was all over, then call Time (not a "T" technical foul), then calmly dump the manager when he comes out. I don't know any good umpires that would "get riled up" when ejecting someone. That's why we get paid the big bucks, to stay calm while others are losing it. I get downright peaceful just before I pull the trigger intentionally in order to keep my cool.

I don't know who taught you that the ball must be dead in order to eject someone, but they lied to you. Ejections during live action are quite commonplace and done at all levels of baseball.

You seem to think we are all a bunch of hayseeds who have never worked any classy, sophisticated baseball before, but you are certainly mistaken on that account.

[DG]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I don't know who taught you that the ball must be dead in order to eject someone, but they lied to you. Ejections during live action are quite commonplace and done at all levels of baseball.

You seem to think we are all a bunch of hayseeds who have never worked any classy, sophisticated baseball before, but you are certainly mistaken on that account.

Thinking back on ejections I have done, I agree, a high majority were when the ball was live.

What I don't understand is why you don't have this guy on your ignore list.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by DG

What I don't understand is why you don't have this guy on your ignore list.

I confess, I peek.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by fitump56

The play is live. If you interrupt potential defensive actions, or offensive reactions, with an ejection, and I'm either coach, you got a real problem coming.

There's nothing to interrupt while issuing the ejection and watching continuing action at the same time. The only problem I see with one of the coaches coming out to ***** about the timing of the ejection is the additional pen to paper time I'll have to endure while writing my ejection report. That shouldn't take more than a minute of my time and less than a tenth of a cent for ink, so I won't be too torn up about it.................


Tim.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by fitump56
The play is live. If you interrupt potential defensive actions, or offensive reactions, with an ejection, and I'm either coach, you got a real problem coming.

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

There's nothing to interrupt while issuing the ejection and watching continuing action at the same time.

If there is nothing to interrrupt, then please define
'continuing action"???

The only problem I see with one of the coaches coming out to ***** about the timing of the ejection is the additional pen to paper time I'll have to endure while writing my ejection report. That shouldn't take more than a minute of my time and less than a tenth of a cent for ink, so I won't be too torn up about it.................

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I have no clue what all that above meant, Timothy. But I do want to comment on your asking if I thought you were an inexperienced umpire. Sure do; the 90' game is not one you can stand the test of experience.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by fitump56

If there is nothing to interrrupt, then please define
'continuing action"???


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I have no clue what all that above meant, Timothy. But I do want to comment on your asking if I thought you were an inexperienced umpire. Sure do; the 90' game is not one you can stand the test of experience.

I don't know, Donovan, but it sure seems to me that allowing a pitcher to continue to throw a tantrum on the field is much more detrimental to the game than issuing an ejection during playing action. The players whose games I work aren't the stooges you'd have them to be. They continue playing until "time" is called. Must be a mens league thing.........


Well, gee, Donovan, I don't recall asking what you thought of my experience. Truth is I'm all torn up that you'd insinuate I'm not experienced. I may not work drunken men's league games like you're so fond of working, but I manage to stumble through real games anyway. Maybe someday I'll reach that pinnacle of umpiring you've set for the forum.


Tim.

[Rcichon]

PU in 'Pissed Pitcher" vid is the gutless one. At least BU went over and kept F2 & F1 away. His herding of the PU reminded me of a MLB crew chief doing that not too long ago....
The rat that came out would have needed his car keys immediately as would [the former] F1.

Other vid shows an [IMO] inexperienced Official. Wandering around and following the rat shows inexperience. The rat, even if tossed, won that one. That guy seriously lost his temper, probably long before this tirade.

IMHO