Like this?

"Blues, Coach X and his team, they talked you into that ejection.!"
"Coach Z, I ejected your player for <whatever>."
"Why did you wait so long then?'
"I didn't wait any longer than was required to finish the play."
"What?, Why wait?"
Coach, if I eject while the ball is live, I could influence play. Simple as that."

Point being, the ejected player is no less guilty, no less ejected whether you potentialy disrupt play withj a live ball ejection or you wait until there is no chance you are going to disrutp play.

All association rules are subject to vote unless thay are contractual.

You're not serious, you kill the ball on walks?

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The play is live. If you interrupt potential defensive actions, or offensive reactions, with an ejection, and I'm either coach, you got a real problem coming.
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:eek: If there is nothing to interrrupt, then please define
'continuing action"???

ok

I have no clue what all that above meant, Timothy. But I do want to comment on your asking if I thought you were an inexperienced umpire. Sure do; the 90' game is not one you can stand the test of experience.

I don't know, Donovan, but it sure seems to me that allowing a pitcher to continue to throw a tantrum on the field is much more detrimental to the game than issuing an ejection during playing action. The players whose games I work aren't the stooges you'd have them to be. They continue playing until "time" is called. Must be a mens league thing.........


Well, gee, Donovan, I don't recall asking what you thought of my experience. Truth is I'm all torn up that you'd insinuate I'm not experienced. I may not work drunken men's league games like you're so fond of working, but I manage to stumble through real games anyway. Maybe someday I'll reach that pinnacle of umpiring you've set for the forum.


Tim.

Yes.

um, yea, mr "Donovan"....time forthe board to chalk up another swingnamiss from you on umpiring :rolleyes:

Huh? You can't influence a play when you eject someone while the ball's live or a play's going on. I've done it, and never has a problem resulted. There have been a few times where a fielder or runner was too stupid to keep arguing while I ignored them to continue my job during the play, but that's not my fault; they're the stupid ones.

Ejecting someone in the middle of a play is not as uncommon as one may think, and it is something permissible under the rules.

I personally never had any problem whatsoever ejecting participants during live action. I also never missed any of the action nor did I interrupt any potential defensive or offensive plays in the process.

I found it quite easy to holler "You're gone!" without removing my focus from the play at hand. I would suggest if anyone has a problem doing this during a live ball that that person is not much of an umpire.

Any umpire worth his hot dog and a Coke should be able to handle ejecting while the play is still proceeding.

I apply my own reasonableness standard. You'll notice that in professional baseball they won't make anyone wait until all the runners have advanced.

What I do works just fine for me.

That not calling Time until the batter-runner reaches first base is highly overrated. It is done all the time in pro ball and is traditionaly done when a manager wants Time to talk to his pitcher. Ball Four...Time Blue?...Time!...BR is 5 feet down the line...Forced runners jogging to their next base.

Now before you go off here, I'm not talking about a passed ball or wild pitch or any other scenario in which a runner might gain an extra base on the play. I'm just talking about routine Ball Four. The catcher either has the ball or has returned it safely to the pitcher. Time can then be granted. I always got a kick out of umpires who say to coaches, "No coach, I can't call Time until he gets to first base." Where is that written in the rules?

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I am with Rich . . . many times I have allowed a coach to enter the field as the BR was walking towards first. Time is out at that time.

And I have ejected during a play and just allowed the play to continue and completed the ejection at plays end.

These are two very simple and common occurances.

Regards,

youll also note umpires swapping baseballs thathit the dirt w catchers while a batter--runner is going to first on a walk and time is clearly "Called" for that too.

Indeed, which is why I'm surprised by the opposition to it.

The pitch that preceeded F1's outburst was a strike. The bad call allowed a run to score. I would have been "pissed" too. But F1 should have been ejected. Both umpires in these videos need a few clinics and aren't ready for the level of youth ball they're working.

Consider the source.