off-topic, but did anyone see this in the side panel of any of the other umpiring videos on youtube? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdL0FEp3zhE
i thought that was kind of funny

If you are the coach that comes out, I doubt I would have any real problem. I would simply dump you right away also. I would not let it bother me to dump the pitcher, watch the remaining action until it was all over, then call Time (not a "T" technical foul), then calmly dump the manager when he comes out. I don't know any good umpires that would "get riled up" when ejecting someone. That's why we get paid the big bucks, to stay calm while others are losing it. I get downright peaceful just before I pull the trigger intentionally in order to keep my cool.

I don't know who taught you that the ball must be dead in order to eject someone, but they lied to you. Ejections during live action are quite commonplace and done at all levels of baseball.

You seem to think we are all a bunch of hayseeds who have never worked any classy, sophisticated baseball before, but you are certainly mistaken on that account.

This Rock don't Roll
 

It could have been worse.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI_v3k43pVo&NR=1

There's nothing to interrupt while issuing the ejection and watching continuing action at the same time. The only problem I see with one of the coaches coming out to ***** about the timing of the ejection is the additional pen to paper time I'll have to endure while writing my ejection report. That shouldn't take more than a minute of my time and less than a tenth of a cent for ink, so I won't be too torn up about it.................


Tim.

If you couldn't eject during playing action, hen they wouldn't have the statement in the rules about the ejection not becoming effective until the end of playing action.

Eject when the action occurs.

Who needs time? He came down to the plate ranting and raving. He'd be gone before reaching me. Teenager, adult, whatever. Ejection is effective at the end of playing action. Besides, in high enough level baseball, I'm happy to call time after a walk before watching everyone advance a base.

The manager would get one question: Who's the sub? If anything other than a substitute was given, the manager would go, too. I don't accept a manager tolerating or encouraging that kind of behavior from players.

Dear Moderator, thanks for deleting my post. God knows what we'd do without heavy-handed moderation.

As for the second video. . .
 

I believe that umpire is a current MiLB umpire. I forwarded the video on to a MiLB umpire in my area to see his opinion, and he offered me that information. I wonder what the umpire schools would say about the handling of this situation? If he's this scared of an amatuer coach like we deal with on a daily basis, how does he deal with it in Pro ball?

Thinking back on ejections I have done, I agree, a high majority were when the ball was live.

What I don't understand is why you don't have this guy on your ignore list.

Bob, what's the hurry? What is gained by interfering with play by ejecting while the ball is live if the player is allowed to continue in the play?

It is an association wide rule of ours. The only reason we can see to eject prior to the end of the play is that it satisfies the official's need to express his anger, or to make a bravado display of sort. IOW, it doesn't serve the game, the officials or the teams any value.

I confess, I peek.:)

Didn't you make the rules? You are the boss there, right?

That is a load of bovine manure.

PU in 'Pissed Pitcher" vid is the gutless one. At least BU went over and kept F2 & F1 away. His herding of the PU reminded me of a MLB crew chief doing that not too long ago....
The rat that came out would have needed his car keys immediately as would [the former] F1.

Other vid shows an [IMO] inexperienced Official. Wandering around and following the rat shows inexperience. The rat, even if tossed, won that one. That guy seriously lost his temper, probably long before this tirade.

IMHO:cool:

there's no "hurry", but ejecting when the act occurs can help prevent further ejections (from others getting involved) and help stop the claim that you were "talked into it" by the team not committing the act.

Well, good for your association. But, that's not the norm, and I haven't seen the need for such a rule.

Another one for "the list".

Heh heh, I peek at his posts too. I can't hep maself. I been hyp-mo-tized!:)