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canadaump6 Sun Oct 07, 2007 07:20pm

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Originally Posted by jicecone
Nope, that is why all games you do are through the association here.

You don't receive a phone call that the game is cancelled, you get paid by the association.

If you choose to go outside the association, you get what you get.

What do you mean by "through the association here"?Well I have to move up and do better levels of ball eventually. I can't just do 12 and under house league stuff all the time. That is very sleazy of them to not pay a cent for gas miledge, but that doesn't mean I can just give up on the league. You're acting as if it's my fault that I didn't get adequetely compensated.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Oct 07, 2007 09:15pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
And yes I am as much a high school umpire as one can be around here. I do a lot of 16-18 year old intercity games, which is just as good as high school would be down in the states,

I doubt seriously that this "intercity" baseball compares with the top high school baseball programs here in the U.S. The high schools and colleges here provide the vast majority of major league ballplayers.

UmpLarryJohnson Sun Oct 07, 2007 09:32pm

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Originally Posted by msavakinas
couldnt help but notice the last game of the league was august 5th according to the website... looks like the jokes on canadaump6 now...


o my how EVER will he explain away this one?? :rolleyes:

GarthB Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:47pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
Nope that wasn't a joke. http://www.pblo.ca/.
And yes I am as much a high school umpire as one can be around here.

Do you work high school (secondary school) games?

canadaump6 Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:12am

I don't umpire actual high school games, but I do umpire the same age level and it's city versus city, so it's equivilent to high school ball. That is the most accurate category I can classify it into.

I don't know why I don't umpire high school ball, I just don't. I'd still consider what I do to be high school ball. Youth is more 13 and under.

bob jenkins Mon Oct 08, 2007 08:08am

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
You're acting as if it's my fault that I didn't get adequetely compensated.

What are the usual procedures in your area?

If someone is supposed to call you, and they don't, then you should be compensated according to the contract (which might not call for any compensation -- and you could try to change this for next season).

If you are supposed to call someone and you didn't, welll ....

If neither, then you should take the initiative and try to reach someone.

JJ Mon Oct 08, 2007 08:52am

You DID have a contract, didn't you? How about a cell phone? If I wake up and it's raining, and nobody calls me, I call THEM. And your partner - did he drive 35 minutes, too? And did HE have a contract? Where was HIS cell phone?
You get burned ONCE like this and you pay more attention to details like....RAIN....

JJ

SanDiegoSteve Mon Oct 08, 2007 09:42am

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Originally Posted by JJ
And your partner - did he drive 135 miles, too?

I do believe it was 35 minutes he drove. If he can cover 135 miles in 35 minutes, I want his car!:)

jicecone Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:15am

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
What do you mean by "through the association here"?Well I have to move up and do better levels of ball eventually. I can't just do 12 and under house league stuff all the time. That is very sleazy of them to not pay a cent for gas miledge, but that doesn't mean I can just give up on the league. You're acting as if it's my fault that I didn't get adequetely compensated.

What I meant was "here" where I live. CT.

They contract with Leagues and there are clauses that are required for the leagues to follow, just as there are clauses that the officials must follow. In each case it costs someone money if there are screw ups.

Now, if in your area you have to contract your services out independently, then as already has been suggested, make sure you have a contract wether written (preferrably) or verbal.

There are many leagues and managers out there that will spend bogoo bucks for equipment, travel and everything else for their teams except, when it comes to the officials. Then they want to nickle and dime you to get your services free. yes some volunteer work is admirable and sometimes good just to get your name out there however, you spend a lot of money on equipment and time learning this profession, you should be justly compensated.

Heck most of us should make $400/game just for all the time we spend on this forum!!!!!

CajunNewBlue Mon Oct 08, 2007 01:34pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
I don't know why I don't umpire high school ball, I just don't. I'd still consider what I do to be high school ball. Youth is more 13 and under.


Yeah, we had a guy like that who tried to join our association... he hated background checks too.

RPatrino Mon Oct 08, 2007 02:00pm

All I know is, as mentioned previously, if it is raining and I haven't heard anything, I'm calling someone. The association's I work for have contacts for every school we work, either the AD or coach. During summer and fall ball, we have lists of contacts for those teams as well.

I say, the onus is on you to make contacts, both with the representatives of the teams and your partner(s). You have no one to blame but yourself on this one. Chalk it up to experience.


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