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canadaump6 Fri Oct 05, 2007 06:06pm

Unejection Mechanic
 
Okay guys, I've got a double header tomorrow doing some of the best players in Ontario. This is my first time doing this level, and I'm worried that I might get a bit trigger happy and eject someone before I've really thought it through. I think it would be best to learn the mechanic for unejecting someone, unlike the other time when I just said to the coach "you're back in the game". Can someone please tell me what the standard unejection mechnic is? Thanks.

Steve M Fri Oct 05, 2007 06:27pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
Okay guys, I've got a double header tomorrow doing some of the best players in Ontario. This is my first time doing this level, and I'm worried that I might get a bit trigger happy and eject someone before I've really thought it through. I think it would be best to learn the mechanic for unejecting someone, unlike the other time when I just said to the coach "you're back in the game". Can someone please tell me what the standard unejection mechnic is? Thanks.

There isn't any un-ejection mechanic.
It is going to be better for your progression to be told to be less tolerant and eject the next person who does/says 'X' than it is to be told by your evaluators that you should not have ejected that player/coach/manager.

SanDiegoSteve Fri Oct 05, 2007 06:56pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
Okay guys, I've got a double header tomorrow doing some of the best players in Ontario. This is my first time doing this level, and I'm worried that I might get a bit trigger happy and eject someone before I've really thought it through. I think it would be best to learn the mechanic for unejecting someone, unlike the other time when I just said to the coach "you're back in the game". Can someone please tell me what the standard unejection mechnic is? Thanks.

Bob, why are you asking this? I know you are just jacking with all of us now, as everyone has already told you that you don't "uneject" anyone. There is no mechanic for it because it isn't done. Why would you worry about being trigger happy? That's just plain old dumb. If someone needs to be dumped, dump them. Don't go looking for trouble. Worrying about ejecting people is just PLAIN DUMB.

justanotherblue Fri Oct 05, 2007 07:09pm

Please tell me your kidding.....amazing...simply amazing

BigUmp56 Fri Oct 05, 2007 07:13pm

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Originally Posted by justanotherblue
Please tell me your kidding.....amazing...simply amazing

Considering the source of the inquery.............no, not amazing at all.


Tim.

UmpLarryJohnson Fri Oct 05, 2007 07:46pm

Hes already ASKED this before----he knows it gets arise outa poeple. hope you all like your chains YANKED....

briancurtin Fri Oct 05, 2007 07:46pm

when lance cokalinski makes this type of post, its usually funny.

try harder next time.

LakeErieUmp Fri Oct 05, 2007 08:55pm

Come on, give him a break.
CUmp it's quite a simple mechanic. You draw your arm inward, the exact reverse of the "goodnight coach, thanks for stopping by". Then you take off your uniform shirt and return the fee.

canadaump6 Fri Oct 05, 2007 09:08pm

For anyone who thought that I was serious, check my signature. It was a setup, and some of you fell for it.

briancurtin Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:16pm

all of your posts are setups and none of them are good or funny.

Rich Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:19am

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
For anyone who thought that I was serious, check my signature. It was a setup, and some of you fell for it.

It might be funnier if you weren't such a sh!tty umpire.

Welpe Sat Oct 06, 2007 01:31am

It would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

GarthB Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:51am

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
For anyone who thought that I was serious, check my signature. It was a setup, and some of you fell for it.

You've used this same signature for weeks. So, does that mean you're acknowledging that none of your posts are serious?

canadaump6 Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:52pm

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Originally Posted by GarthB
You've used this same signature for weeks. So, does that mean you're acknowledging that none of your posts are serious?

If I say something that is so ridiculously stupid that there is no way I could be serious about it, then it's just comedy. I've joked twice on here; this thread, and the time that I said I used rule 9.10c four or five times a week. It's not that hard to tell when I'm kidding.

GarthB Sat Oct 06, 2007 01:13pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
If I say something that is so ridiculously stupid that there is no way I could be serious about it, then it's just comedy. I've joked twice on here; this thread, and the time that I said I used rule 9.10c four or five times a week. It's not that hard to tell when I'm kidding.

So, then, when you said your signature is an indication that you aren't serious, you weren't being serious?

Wow. You've posted some really strange things, like that you are a competent high school offical working university level baseball. It's difficult to know when you're serious.

How about this...when you post something serious add: "And I really, really mean it this time, honest." Then tie your shoe laces together, put a rose between your teeth and hop in a circle, three times.

mattmets Sat Oct 06, 2007 01:22pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
If I say something that is so ridiculously stupid that there is no way I could be serious about it, then it's just comedy. I've joked twice on here; this thread, and the time that I said I used rule 9.10c four or five times a week. It's not that hard to tell when I'm kidding.

Any time you post?

SanDiegoSteve Sat Oct 06, 2007 03:08pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
If I say something that is so ridiculously stupid that there is no way I could be serious about it, then it's just comedy. I've joked twice on here; this thread, and the time that I said I used rule 9.10c four or five times a week. It's not that hard to tell when I'm kidding.

I have said ridiculously stupid things on this forum many times, some of which were not funny at all. You manage to say stupid things quite often, even when you are being serious. How are we supposed to know when you're just kidding? Please follow your posts with "j/k" to let us tell the difference between when you say something stupid that you are serious about and when you are just trying to be clever.

Why should we have to look to your signature to see if you are joking. I find the folks at Dateline a bit intrusive to begin with, and they certainly are not even in a joking mood. It doesn't sound a thing like a joke or something funny.

Your post may have been intended to be funny, but it really missed the mark.

MichaelVA2000 Sat Oct 06, 2007 04:38pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
Can someone please tell me what the standard unejection mechnic is? Thanks.

Here's an "unejection mechanic" just for you. Before the ejected coach leaves the field, ask him to bend over. Now that the coach is bent over, kiss his a$$ and tell him you are sorry and that he can remain in the game.:rolleyes:

briancurtin Sat Oct 06, 2007 05:01pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
If I say something that is so ridiculously stupid that there is no way I could be serious about it, then it's just comedy. I've joked twice on here; this thread, and the time that I said I used rule 9.10c four or five times a week. It's not that hard to tell when I'm kidding.

the only part of your comedy that made me laugh is the fact that you think these types of posts have any relation to comedy or that they could be considered jokes.

if we wanted unfunny 'jokes' posted on an umpire forum, id ask carlos mencia to post here.

SanDiegoSteve Sat Oct 06, 2007 05:51pm

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Originally Posted by briancurtin
if we wanted unfunny 'jokes' posted on an umpire forum, id ask carlos mencia to post here.

I thought I was the only one who found Mencia to be very un-funny. Good to see I'm not alone.

jicecone Sat Oct 06, 2007 06:14pm

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Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000
Here's an "unejection mechanic" just for you. Before the ejected coach leaves the field, ask him to bend over. Now that the coach is bent over, kiss his a$$ and tell him you are sorry and that he can remain in the game.:rolleyes:

I believe this is also done from the GD stance.

Oh and by the way make sure and get a picture of this and post it, so we can comment on it. This will be helpful in your futre as an umpire, emplyoee, politician etc.

Oh, I'm sorry I was only kidding!

This is actually done from the scissors stance, it is easier to get right into the slot that way.

UmpLarryJohnson Sat Oct 06, 2007 06:17pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
If I say something that is so ridiculously stupid that there is no way I could be serious about it,


problem is, NOTHING you say goes into this catagory :rolleyes:

theres NOTHING too stupid for YOU to beleive kid

UmpLarryJohnson Sat Oct 06, 2007 07:44pm

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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler
Says, Larry the Cable Guy...........:rolleyes:

ha! do i atract your ire mr Tyler? im in fair company then :p

rei Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:33pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
It's not that hard to tell when I'm kidding.

Errrrrrrr...actually it IS! :eek:

Rcichon Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:48pm

canada...
 
Humor such as your last attempt is effective only AFTER you have sufficient experience with which to impress those readers whom do not have you on the /ignore/ list.

HokieUmp Sun Oct 07, 2007 01:22am

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
If I say something that is so ridiculously stupid that there is no way I could be serious about it, then it's just comedy. I've joked twice on here; this thread, and the time that I said I used rule 9.10c four or five times a week. It's not that hard to tell when I'm kidding.

I haven't been on this board that long, but I will say this: knowing when you're kidding? It's not as easy as you might think. It's actually a little scary.

Interested Ump Sun Oct 07, 2007 09:28am

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
Okay guys, I've got a double header tomorrow doing some of the best players in Ontario. This is my first time doing this level, and I'm worried that I might get a bit trigger happy and eject someone before I've really thought it through. I think it would be best to learn the mechanic for unejecting someone, unlike the other time when I just said to the coach "you're back in the game". Can someone please tell me what the standard unejection mechnic is? Thanks.

:D

bob jenkins Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:40am

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
For anyone who thought that I was serious, check my signature. It was a setup, and some of you fell for it.

I note, however, that you don't indicate which part was the "humor." I'm guessing it was the part where you were working a game involving the best players from Ontario.

canadaump6 Sun Oct 07, 2007 01:29pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
I note, however, that you don't indicate which part was the "humor." I'm guessing it was the part where you were working a game involving the best players from Ontario.

Nope that wasn't a joke. http://www.pblo.ca/. I was going to do a doubleheader yesterday, but it got rained out. I drove 35 minutes to the park, found out no one was there, and am not getting a cent for it. They aren't even covering the gas costs. That is not a joke. Any of you guys get jerked around by the league like that?

And yes I am as much a high school umpire as one can be around here. I do a lot of 16-18 year old intercity games, which is just as good as high school would be down in the states, and what am I supposed to call that level of ball? It's not Little League because they are older and they are rep, it's not college, nor university. High school ball is the most accurate description because those guys are in high school.

jicecone Sun Oct 07, 2007 02:12pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
Nope that wasn't a joke. http://www.pblo.ca/. I was going to do a doubleheader yesterday, but it got rained out. I drove 35 minutes to the park, found out no one was there, and am not getting a cent for it. They aren't even covering the gas costs. That is not a joke. Any of you guys get jerked around by the league like that?.

Nope, that is why all games you do are through the association here.

You don't receive a phone call that the game is cancelled, you get paid by the association.

If you choose to go outside the association, you get what you get.

canadaump6 Sun Oct 07, 2007 07:20pm

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Originally Posted by jicecone
Nope, that is why all games you do are through the association here.

You don't receive a phone call that the game is cancelled, you get paid by the association.

If you choose to go outside the association, you get what you get.

What do you mean by "through the association here"?Well I have to move up and do better levels of ball eventually. I can't just do 12 and under house league stuff all the time. That is very sleazy of them to not pay a cent for gas miledge, but that doesn't mean I can just give up on the league. You're acting as if it's my fault that I didn't get adequetely compensated.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Oct 07, 2007 09:15pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
And yes I am as much a high school umpire as one can be around here. I do a lot of 16-18 year old intercity games, which is just as good as high school would be down in the states,

I doubt seriously that this "intercity" baseball compares with the top high school baseball programs here in the U.S. The high schools and colleges here provide the vast majority of major league ballplayers.

UmpLarryJohnson Sun Oct 07, 2007 09:32pm

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Originally Posted by msavakinas
couldnt help but notice the last game of the league was august 5th according to the website... looks like the jokes on canadaump6 now...


o my how EVER will he explain away this one?? :rolleyes:

GarthB Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:47pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
Nope that wasn't a joke. http://www.pblo.ca/.
And yes I am as much a high school umpire as one can be around here.

Do you work high school (secondary school) games?

canadaump6 Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:12am

I don't umpire actual high school games, but I do umpire the same age level and it's city versus city, so it's equivilent to high school ball. That is the most accurate category I can classify it into.

I don't know why I don't umpire high school ball, I just don't. I'd still consider what I do to be high school ball. Youth is more 13 and under.

bob jenkins Mon Oct 08, 2007 08:08am

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
You're acting as if it's my fault that I didn't get adequetely compensated.

What are the usual procedures in your area?

If someone is supposed to call you, and they don't, then you should be compensated according to the contract (which might not call for any compensation -- and you could try to change this for next season).

If you are supposed to call someone and you didn't, welll ....

If neither, then you should take the initiative and try to reach someone.

JJ Mon Oct 08, 2007 08:52am

You DID have a contract, didn't you? How about a cell phone? If I wake up and it's raining, and nobody calls me, I call THEM. And your partner - did he drive 35 minutes, too? And did HE have a contract? Where was HIS cell phone?
You get burned ONCE like this and you pay more attention to details like....RAIN....

JJ

SanDiegoSteve Mon Oct 08, 2007 09:42am

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Originally Posted by JJ
And your partner - did he drive 135 miles, too?

I do believe it was 35 minutes he drove. If he can cover 135 miles in 35 minutes, I want his car!:)

jicecone Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:15am

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
What do you mean by "through the association here"?Well I have to move up and do better levels of ball eventually. I can't just do 12 and under house league stuff all the time. That is very sleazy of them to not pay a cent for gas miledge, but that doesn't mean I can just give up on the league. You're acting as if it's my fault that I didn't get adequetely compensated.

What I meant was "here" where I live. CT.

They contract with Leagues and there are clauses that are required for the leagues to follow, just as there are clauses that the officials must follow. In each case it costs someone money if there are screw ups.

Now, if in your area you have to contract your services out independently, then as already has been suggested, make sure you have a contract wether written (preferrably) or verbal.

There are many leagues and managers out there that will spend bogoo bucks for equipment, travel and everything else for their teams except, when it comes to the officials. Then they want to nickle and dime you to get your services free. yes some volunteer work is admirable and sometimes good just to get your name out there however, you spend a lot of money on equipment and time learning this profession, you should be justly compensated.

Heck most of us should make $400/game just for all the time we spend on this forum!!!!!

CajunNewBlue Mon Oct 08, 2007 01:34pm

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Originally Posted by canadaump6
I don't know why I don't umpire high school ball, I just don't. I'd still consider what I do to be high school ball. Youth is more 13 and under.


Yeah, we had a guy like that who tried to join our association... he hated background checks too.

RPatrino Mon Oct 08, 2007 02:00pm

All I know is, as mentioned previously, if it is raining and I haven't heard anything, I'm calling someone. The association's I work for have contacts for every school we work, either the AD or coach. During summer and fall ball, we have lists of contacts for those teams as well.

I say, the onus is on you to make contacts, both with the representatives of the teams and your partner(s). You have no one to blame but yourself on this one. Chalk it up to experience.


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