Unejected a Coach

[canadaump6]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Sorry. I thought that once. I thought, "no working umpire would ever say some of this stuff." But I was wrong.

Like it or not, he is real.

Richard on umpire.org wrote that he saw him at that Cooperstown scamfest and actually worked a game with him. His post is priceless. Richard struggles mightily to acknowledge canadaump6's existance without making one comment or hint as to his work. Richard is a diplomat.

But in the same thread, ohmygollycanada lets everyone know he struggled during the tournament.

Sorry, Larry. But he is real.

First of all Garth, you're not making yourself look all that bright by acknowledging UmpLarryJohnson.

The reason Richard didn't comment on my work was because I was on the left field foul line, and had two routine foul calls all game. Garth, when did I say that I struggled during the tournament? You're full of crap. I said "enough coach" once. The coaches called in a tournament director ONCE because they didn't know the unnannounced substitution rule that I clearly explained to them. Their protest was not upheld.

You know Garth, I'm not perfect and I never said that I was. Of course I make mistakes. At least I'm not that you and your son are. Word is neither of you are as good as you claim to be.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

At least I'm not the that you and your son are. Word is neither of you are as good as you claim to be.

When have you ever met, seen or read anything written by my son? Like maybe, never?

When he was your age he was working state high school and legion tournaments and college games. Unlike you, he never whined on internet boards about his treatment and he never posted anything bragging about his abilities. In fact, he has never posted on an umpire web site.

He recently finished his first year as a MiLB umpire and from what he has been told by evaluators, he's about as good as he thinks he is. (He thinks he needs to continue working hard and improving to stay in the game.)

As for me, point out a post where I described my abilities or performance level. If, in your mind, you have assigned me to a level of umpiring from the collective posts I've written, that's your opinion. I've never said that I was good, great, mediocre or crap.

When I've discussed my son with you it has only been to demonstrate that young people do not have to be held back by their youth. They can be dedicated. They can work hard. They can save their money and go to school and they can succeed. They don't have to just piss and moan about how they aren't appreciated by their assignors and then write one idiotic post after another.

I'd love to meet who you got your "word" from. One of you is a lying POS.

C'mon down little one. If you want to see what kind of an umpire I am, I'll schedule a double header and we'll work together if I can find a level you can handle. Our association doesn't handle anything below high school, but I have friend who assigns 9 and 10 year olds.

By the way, you are far too modest. You're already an arrogant prick. One doesn't have to be accomlished or experienced to excell at that. You're proof.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by GarthB

In fact, he has never posted on an umpire web site.

Which makes him the smart one in the family.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Which makes him the smart one in the family.

Agreed.

But unfortunately, since he is prohibited by his employer from posting on sites like this, it also makes him an easy target for cheap shots by jealous and ignorant little people.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Agreed.

But unfortunately, since he is prohibited by his employer from posting on sites like this, it also makes him an easy target for cheap shots by jealous and ignorant little people.

Since he got to work the playoffs, is Matt going to be moving up to regular A-ball next season?

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Since he got to work the playoffs, is Matt going to be moving up to regular A-ball next season?

Next year assignments come out in February. Some rookie umps spend two years in rookie ball, some move up, some move out. That makes for two acceptable options.

[canadaump6]

While I did take a little bit of a cheap shot at your son, people have taken cheap shots at me all the time, so why shouldn't I be able to do the same?

That's all I've got to say in this thread.

[MD Longhorn]

Taking a cheap shot at his son is uncalled for because he's not here to defend himself, and he has never said a word here about you. Apparently you don't only LOOK young, but you ACT young as well.

Face it ... you're not doing university ball because you don't know simple rules and struggle with simple concepts. Refer to nearly any thread you've started for examples. I don't know you and I've never seen you work - but based solely on your posts - both the content (failing to understand many different rules, asking questions that I'd expect any 1st year guy to already understand) and the demeanor (your attitude here is that of a 12 year old cyberpunk) - I would have serious reservations putting you on the field with even my youngest groups, and would DEFINITELY be partnering you with someone strong.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

While I did take a little bit of a cheap shot at your son, people have taken cheap shots at me all the time, so why shouldn't I be able to do the same?

Those cheap shots at you get deleted or edited. Yet you whine when your posts get moderated. You can't complain about others teking the same actions that you take.

That's all I've got to say in this thread.

I hope so.

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

While I did take a little bit of a cheap shot at your son, people have taken cheap shots at me all the time, so why shouldn't I be able to do the same?

That's all I've got to say in this thread.

Ummm..... perhaps because the son's of those posters never took a shot at you. How lame to attack someone who doesn't even post here. Go back under your bridge.

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

In FED, you have the choice of putting the coach on the bus or making him sit quietly. Here in CT, we are asked to use the restriction first especially in a case where the offending coach is the only qualified adult Representative.

In the case above, it was a better choice to talk to the rookie as the veteran did and let the rookie make the change. Again, this was a FED game and the option was there. In an OBR or NCAA game, once gone, he has to stay gone.

Regards

If there is only one coach in the dugout, and he has barely "crossed the line", I will use the dugout restriction option. If there is more than one coach, I always eject them, then tell the commissioner later that I should have restricted him.

I feel the only useful purpose of the dugout restriction is when there is only one coach and he is crossing the line, albeit, barely. Of course if he really crosses over it, I would not hesitate to ejected him and in effect cause the forfeit. I believe that falls under the "accountability" part of being an adult in charge of a team. But with more than one coach, I am of the frame of mind that he either gets a warning, or should be ejected. If the commissioner is of the opinion that I shouldn't have ejected him (in Oregon, for FED games, an ejected player or coach has to sit out an additional game, as well as the school paying a fine), well, I will concede that point, but at least I got rid of the guy that day.

*edited to fix spelin' airors.

Originally Posted by rei

If there is only one coach in the dugout, and he has barely "crossed the line", I will use the dugout restriction option. If there is more than one coach, I always eject them, then tell the commissioner later that I should have restricted him.

I feel the only useful purpose of the dugout restriction is when there is only one coach and he is crossing the line, albeit, barely. Of course if he really crosses over it, I would not hesitate to ejected him and in effect cause the forfeit. I believe that falls under the "accountability" part of being an adult in charge of a team. But with more than one coach, I am of the frame of mind that he either gets a warning, or should be ejected. If the commissioner is of the opinion that I shouldn't have ejected him (in Oregon, for FED games, an ejected player or coach has to sit out an additional game, as well as the school playing a fine), well, I will concede that point, but at least I got rid of the guy that day.

Just call me a rogue if you will.

[Rcichon]

I have heard of some women that admit when they were wrong.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Rcichon

I have heard of some women that admit when they were wrong.

Me too. I've never actually met one though.

[ManInBlue]

Originally Posted by rei

as well as the school paying a fine)

School paid fines? In MS the coach pays the fine (as of either the 2006 or 2007 season, I don't recall which)