Unejected a Coach

[canadaump6]

In a Fed game, young umpire objected to a coach telling him "You blew that call" twice, face-to-face, not across the field. Said rookie dumps coach.

I let too much of that kind of crap slide this year. 8 ejections in about 70 games, but it should have been more like 15. If someone comes up to me and tells me "you blew that call", there's a good chance I will dump him if I feel he is trying to intimidate me. If he's letting off frustration I'll probably say nothing.

As for yelling "you're killing us blue", this is something I used to not toss someone for in the past, but I am considering ejecting them in 2008.

And yes I did give this thread a 5 star rating, just as it deserves.

[TussAgee11]

You ejected 8 people in 70 games?

Not saying your ejections weren't valid, but you must be pissing some people off to get that many.

That's one every nine games! Reconsider that you probably should be letting even more slide, and not take it so personally, eh?

[RPatrino]

8 in 70 games? I've dumped 8 in 7 innings, so what.

BTW, why is the coach yelling sub's to a base ump in right field anyway? And, where can we reduce the rating on a thread?

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

And yes I did give this thread a 5 star rating, just as it deserves.

Proving again that nothing has changed in your outlook on umpiring or yourself and that your assignor has the right opinion of your work.

[UmpLarryJohnson]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Proving again that nothing has changed in your outlook on umpiring or yourself and that your assignor has the right opinion of your work.

WHAT work? WHAT assigner?


there ISNT one! excpet in his head

[Cub42]

The first thing that you need to understand and learn from this situation is that when you dump a player or coach, is that they are being ejected for a specific reason. In your post you have questions about whether you should have run him after the first exchange. Here are some parameters to follow during a situation that may escalate towards an ejection:
1) First, never get into an exchange with a coach or player who is in the dugout or not in the vicinity of the play that is in question. If he wants to discuss it, he should come out and converse 1 on 1 with the umpire calling the play. If he declines to come out, move to your postion.
2) Umpires do not eject players or managers. Players and managers eject themselves. Once they cross the line, they have to go. It is important to understand this so as to not have any indecision or confusion as to why someone is ejected.
3) There is no turning back, EVER after someone has been ejected from a game. Never. You now write your report.

" When you look for trouble, trouble finds you" From the time you enter the field, remember, " You're in charge, be in charge"

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by UmpLarryJohnson

WHAT work? WHAT assigner?


there ISNT one! excpet in his head

Sorry. I thought that once. I thought, "no working umpire would ever say some of this stuff." But I was wrong.

Like it or not, he is real.

Richard on umpire.org wrote that he saw him at that Cooperstown scamfest and actually worked a game with him. His post is priceless. Richard struggles mightily to acknowledge canadaump6's existance without making one comment or hint as to his work. Richard is a diplomat.

But in the same thread, ohmygollycanada lets everyone know he struggled during the tournament.

Sorry, Larry. But he is real.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

You ejected 8 people in 70 games?

Not saying your ejections weren't valid, but you must be pissing some people off to get that many.

That's one every nine games! Reconsider that you probably should be letting even more slide, and not take it so personally, eh?

I've ejected that many in a season. Regardless of who started this thread, you cannot possibly come to this conclusion without knowing the circumstances.

It has nothing to do with taking it personally.

[UmpLarryJohnson]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Sorry, Larry. But he is real.

oh my god.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by UmpLarryJohnson

oh my god.

See page three of this thread:

http://www.umpire.org/modules.php?na...er=asc&start=0

[UmpLarryJohnson]

*shocked and saddened*


thank you for the info mr Garth. its a sad moment for me.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Who knows? Perhaps the guy who lets rats yell at him across the field rated it himself.

I gave it 5 bleepin' stars.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by BretMan

In a fall league last week, I had both teams begging me to "uneject" a player!

One team was playing short-handed, with only eight players (FED rules). We were only in the third inning. A player for the short-handed team went down on a called third strike.

He took a few steps from the plate, let loose with a string of profanities, then brought his bat up overhead and heaved it about 30 feet in the general direction of his own dugout.

I didn't even hesitate on that one- "Number 11, you're ejected!".

Since they dropped down to seven players, the game became an automatic forfeit. His coaches pleaded for me to change my mind. The other team's coaches asked if I would reconsider. They wanted to play!

I held my ground, telling them, "If you still want to play, be my guest. You can play another ten innings if you want. But you won't be doing it with these two umpires present".

And with that one, well deserved "heave-ho", I now have the reputation as the hard-a$$ umpire that doesn't "care about the kids"!

I get this one with the 18+ MSBL studs, they scramble to put together 9 or 10 so the ranks are thin. As if I care. Hell, I can guarantee you that there have been times when a buddy drug his drugged buddy to the field and the drugged buddy had beserk on his mind for a reason. To go home.

Oh, you call kids? What an a$$hole you are. I hope you never call crippled lepers or blinded, one footed dwarfs.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by umpduck11

Ozzy, I do not disagree whatsoever, but what about this situation : In a Fed
game, young umpire objected to a coach telling him "You blew that call" twice, face-to-face, not across the field. Said rookie dumps coach. He was the only representative of the school at the facility. His partner, a veteran,
convinced the rookie to change the ejection to a dugout restriction. That way, the game did not have to be forfeited, as per state rule. From all reports, that compromise made all parties happy.

In FED, you have the choice of putting the coach on the bus or making him sit quietly. Here in CT, we are asked to use the restriction first especially in a case where the offending coach is the only qualified adult Representative.

In the case above, it was a better choice to talk to the rookie as the veteran did and let the rookie make the change. Again, this was a FED game and the option was there. In an OBR or NCAA game, once gone, he has to stay gone.

Regards

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Oh, you call kids?

It was an 18U high school league, so the "kids" had crossed the magical "players that shave" demarcation that gets yammered about here so often. Well, at least some of them had.

Even worse, I imagine, in the eyes of many here- besides the crippled lepers and blinded dwarfs I also work many games with...gasp!...girls!