Unejected a Coach

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

For those who really have a clue:

You never eject someone unless you are sure that this is either the proper penalty or the last straw because once you eject, you never, ever bring them back --- for any reason!

And that is not open to interpretation - that is the way we operate!

This is why some people umpire and others wish that they could!

Ozzy, I do not disagree whatsoever, but what about this situation : In a Fed
game, young umpire objected to a coach telling him "You blew that call" twice, face-to-face, not across the field. Said rookie dumps coach. He was the only representative of the school at the facility. His partner, a veteran,
convinced the rookie to change the ejection to a dugout restriction. That way, the game did not have to be forfeited, as per state rule. From all reports, that compromise made all parties happy.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by umpduck11

Ozzy, I do not disagree whatsoever, but what about this situation : In a Fed
game, young umpire objected to a coach telling him "You blew that call" twice, face-to-face, not across the field. Said rookie dumps coach. He was the only representative of the school at the facility. His partner, a veteran,
convinced the rookie to change the ejection to a dugout restriction. That way, the game did not have to be forfeited, as per state rule. From all reports, that compromise made all parties happy.

In FED, you have the choice of putting the coach on the bus or making him sit quietly. Here in CT, we are asked to use the restriction first especially in a case where the offending coach is the only qualified adult Representative.

In the case above, it was a better choice to talk to the rookie as the veteran did and let the rookie make the change. Again, this was a FED game and the option was there. In an OBR or NCAA game, once gone, he has to stay gone.

Regards

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

In FED, you have the choice of putting the coach on the bus or making him sit quietly. Here in CT, we are asked to use the restriction first especially in a case where the offending coach is the only qualified adult Representative.

In the case above, it was a better choice to talk to the rookie as the veteran did and let the rookie make the change. Again, this was a FED game and the option was there. In an OBR or NCAA game, once gone, he has to stay gone.

Regards

If there is only one coach in the dugout, and he has barely "crossed the line", I will use the dugout restriction option. If there is more than one coach, I always eject them, then tell the commissioner later that I should have restricted him.

I feel the only useful purpose of the dugout restriction is when there is only one coach and he is crossing the line, albeit, barely. Of course if he really crosses over it, I would not hesitate to ejected him and in effect cause the forfeit. I believe that falls under the "accountability" part of being an adult in charge of a team. But with more than one coach, I am of the frame of mind that he either gets a warning, or should be ejected. If the commissioner is of the opinion that I shouldn't have ejected him (in Oregon, for FED games, an ejected player or coach has to sit out an additional game, as well as the school paying a fine), well, I will concede that point, but at least I got rid of the guy that day.

*edited to fix spelin' airors.

Originally Posted by rei

If there is only one coach in the dugout, and he has barely "crossed the line", I will use the dugout restriction option. If there is more than one coach, I always eject them, then tell the commissioner later that I should have restricted him.

I feel the only useful purpose of the dugout restriction is when there is only one coach and he is crossing the line, albeit, barely. Of course if he really crosses over it, I would not hesitate to ejected him and in effect cause the forfeit. I believe that falls under the "accountability" part of being an adult in charge of a team. But with more than one coach, I am of the frame of mind that he either gets a warning, or should be ejected. If the commissioner is of the opinion that I shouldn't have ejected him (in Oregon, for FED games, an ejected player or coach has to sit out an additional game, as well as the school playing a fine), well, I will concede that point, but at least I got rid of the guy that day.

Just call me a rogue if you will.

[Rcichon]

I have heard of some women that admit when they were wrong.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Rcichon

I have heard of some women that admit when they were wrong.

Me too. I've never actually met one though.

[ManInBlue]

Originally Posted by rei

as well as the school paying a fine)

School paid fines? In MS the coach pays the fine (as of either the 2006 or 2007 season, I don't recall which)