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Tim C Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:49am

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". . . nice idea, let us know when you try some 90-foot games and let us know how THAT went . . ."

Perhaps he could have also talked with his crew when he finished calling the State Championship Final game of Washington largest schools.

Regards,

SanDiegoSteve Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:01am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
I think it's entirely possible that Winters baited him. I also think it's entirely possible that Bradley deserved it. But, both of those statements are just supposition.

I personally don't find anything wrong with putting some cheese on a mousetrap, but then again one shouldn't call names. We'll see what happens. Bradley is threatening to take it to the highest court.:rolleyes:

UmpLarryJohnson Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:19am

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Originally Posted by Tim C
". . . nice idea, let us know when you try some 90-foot games and let us know how THAT went . . ."

Perhaps he could have also talked with his crew when he finished calling the State Championship Final game of Washington largest schools.

Regards,

guess getting hi asignments doesnt make one immune to silly posts, now does it?


say lah vee, life goes on.

Rich Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:55am

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Originally Posted by UmpLarryJohnson
guess getting hi asignments doesnt make one immune to silly posts, now does it?


say lah vee, life goes on.

Silly to you, absolutely 100% accurate to me.

GarthB Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:56pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
I think it's entirely possible that Winters baited him. I also think it's entirely possible that Bradley deserved it. But, both of those statements are just supposition.

I guess it might depend on what point in time the replay starts, but the one being shown on ESPN indicates that Bradley was jawing at Winters while taking his lead and Winters was responding.

MLB has hired lip readers in the past to help them determine who said what what in similar instances. I'll bet it's already been done.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Sep 24, 2007 05:07pm

I just heard an interview with Padres CEO Sandy Alderson who said that he would find it hard to believe that anyone could say that Winters didn't provoke the situation. He is not holding Bradley blameless, but he finds it impossible to imagine Bradley just melting down at first base all on his own. The prior at bat was brought up by Runge, and then again by Winters. Form all accounts of all witnesses so far, it appears that Bradley did not initiate the conversation concerning the flung bat.

Alderson won't make any comments specific to the case, but it appears that Winters did indeed bait Bradley with a racist comment of some sort. We will all just have to wait and see.

GarthB Mon Sep 24, 2007 05:27pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
I just heard an interview with Padres CEO Sandy Alderson who said that he would find it hard to believe that anyone could say that Winters didn't provoke the situation. He is not holding Bradley blameless, but he finds it impossible to imagine Bradley just melting down at first base all on his own. The prior at bat was brought up by Runge, and then again by Winters. Form all accounts of all witnesses so far, it appears that Bradley did not initiate the conversation concerning the flung bat.

Alderson won't make any comments specific to the case, but it appears that Winters did indeed bait Bradley with a racist comment of some sort. We will all just have to wait and see.


Sandy Alderson??? YGBSM.

Yeah, there's an unbaised voice being raised.:rolleyes:

ESPN is now reporting that the first base coach who accused Winters of a racial slur has changed his allegation to Winters said something that "could be taken racially."

BigUmp56 Mon Sep 24, 2007 05:47pm

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Originally Posted by GarthB

MLB has hired lip readers in the past to help them determine who said what what in similar instances. I'll bet it's already been done.

ESPN is reporting that MLB is going to reach out to Todd Helton to find out what was said.


Tim.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Sep 24, 2007 06:57pm

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Originally Posted by GarthB
Sandy Alderson??? YGBSM.

Yeah, there's an unbaised voice being raised.:rolleyes:

ESPN is now reporting that the first base coach who accused Winters of a racial slur has changed his allegation to Winters said something that "could be taken racially."

Uh, we like Sandy out these parts. He is a very rational man and not prone to hyperbole. He is a respected baseball man around the league, being that he is a former MLB executive. I would not blame him for being a bit partial toward the Padres since he has a vested interest in the team.

mbyron Mon Sep 24, 2007 07:00pm

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Originally Posted by GarthB
ESPN is now reporting that the first base coach who accused Winters of a racial slur has changed his allegation to Winters said something that "could be taken racially."

Yeah, like Jose Canseco used to accuse the media of being racist because reporters asked whether he used steroids. :eek:

Steven Tyler Mon Sep 24, 2007 07:18pm

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Originally Posted by BigUmp56
ESPN is reporting that MLB is going to reach out to Todd Helton to find out what was said.


Tim.

Wow, two different statements by ESPN....:rolleyes:

The most telling statement is, "No comment" by Winters.

GarthB Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:04pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Uh, we like Sandy out these parts. He is a very rational man and not prone to hyperbole. He is a respected baseball man around the league, being that he is a former MLB executive. I would not blame him for being a bit partial toward the Padres since he has a vested interest in the team.

There's more than his interest in the Padres that compromises his opinion. His antagonism with umpires goes way back. No one in MLB had a worse relationship with umpires. He is on record as questioning their ethics for years.

Alderson is scum.

rei Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:34pm

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Originally Posted by fitump56
All my games are at levels that do not require shaving. It's optional. You want to tell a 25 yo ex Minor leauger throwing at the 90s to shave, be my guest. :p

Oh, so you have only umpired "ex" minor leaguers eh? :rolleyes:

UMP25 Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:44pm

That's an understatement, Garth. It is well-known that he truly disliked umpires and did everything he could to undermine or mess with them.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:59pm

Alright then, how about Jerry Coleman. Who wants to bad mouth the WWII war hero and HOFer? He said that the umpiring that went on Sunday was the absolute worst he has ever seen and that there will be major implications when this shakes out.

When the Colonel says it's the worst, it's the worst.


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