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fitump56 Wed Sep 26, 2007 01:24am
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Originally Posted by gordon30307
Wow, to many steps for me to remember. If only it was that simple I'd take the time to memorize them. No two situations are the same.
You memorize (generally) how many rules, lines of text? 100s? 1000s?

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All require people skills. Sometimes (doesn't happen often) the Coaches have a point. When they do I"ll cut them some slack up to a point. Other times I'm on their a** from the get go. First pitch of the game Coach yapping about the strike zone. I'll nip that in the bud. Middle of the game maybe I will maybe I won't it just depends on how things are going.

My point too many variables to have rigid rules.
If you are out there winging it with your people skills, without set parameters of behaviour, you are going to find that when ejecting the complaint will be "inconsistent".

fitump56 Wed Sep 26, 2007 01:26am
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Originally Posted by rei
Oh, so you have only umpired "ex" minor leaguers eh? :rolleyes:
These days, ex-professional players make up approximately 20% of those that I umpire. Not many players haven't had @ least a 2 year collegiate experience.

SanDiegoSteve Wed Sep 26, 2007 01:43am
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Originally Posted by umpduck11
Steve, really, what does being a war hero have to do with baseball knowledge ? Nothing, really. I agree with your assessment of his service to this country, but that doesn't mean anything in this particular discussion.
Uh, dude, I never said his service record had anything at all to do with his knowledge.

Perhaps the fact that he was a star second baseman with the New York Yankees for 9 seasons, several of which were cut short due being recalled to active duty to fight another war, had something to do with it. He would have played more seasons but had to go fight for his country after being drafted by the Yankees in 1942. He is in the Broadcasters Wing of the Hall of Fame. He has been an announcer for the Yankees, Angels and Padres, not to mention CBS Radio's Game of the Week for years. He even stepped out of the booth to manage the hapless Padres in 1980. The man knows baseball. He's seen more baseball than all of us, and just because he's not as good of a broadcaster these days is no reason to bash him. He's in the HOF for cryin' out loud.

I took umbrage to people being disrespectful of Jerry Coleman. The man is not a homer, he says it like it is. Anyone who knew WTF they were talking about would never say he's a homer. I've sure heard worse.

And Rich F.---I got your fanBOY hangin' low and left.

fitump56 Wed Sep 26, 2007 01:46am
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
And as a Yankees fan, I wouldn't mind seeing Kyle Farnsworth suspended until....oh.... about November, 2008.
Join the "We Hate Kyle" association ("WHKA") started by North Fulton High School coaches when he was at Milton HS, Alpharetta GA. :D

fitump56 Wed Sep 26, 2007 01:52am
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IMO, what's getting overlooked is that Bradley if not stopped by someone would have phsically asaulted an official.
Didn't miss that for one second, Pete.

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There is a way to handle things. If Winters (and we still do not have the entire story) did utter a racial comment then he should be reprimanded by the league. Suspended for the remainder of the season and playoffs (if he was on the lsit) and his future as an official in MLB to be determined.
With you all the way :D

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The point I am making is that you cannot have an athlete in prime condition attack an official.

There is a way to handle things.

Pete Booth
Colt 45.

A brewski for all the races!

Rich Wed Sep 26, 2007 08:03am
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Uh, dude, I never said his service record had anything at all to do with his knowledge.

Perhaps the fact that he was a star second baseman with the New York Yankees for 9 seasons, several of which were cut short due being recalled to active duty to fight another war, had something to do with it. He would have played more seasons but had to go fight for his country after being drafted by the Yankees in 1942. He is in the Broadcasters Wing of the Hall of Fame. He has been an announcer for the Yankees, Angels and Padres, not to mention CBS Radio's Game of the Week for years. He even stepped out of the booth to manage the hapless Padres in 1980. The man knows baseball. He's seen more baseball than all of us, and just because he's not as good of a broadcaster these days is no reason to bash him. He's in the HOF for cryin' out loud.

I took umbrage to people being disrespectful of Jerry Coleman. The man is not a homer, he says it like it is. Anyone who knew WTF they were talking about would never say he's a homer. I've sure heard worse.

And Rich F.---I got your fanBOY hangin' low and left.
Whatever. He's terrible. I live in Wisconsin. I think Bob Uecker is worse. Not popular around here, but people believe what they want to believe.

UmpLarryJohnson Wed Sep 26, 2007 08:37am
coleman = homer. that is all






j/k

gordon30307 Wed Sep 26, 2007 09:45am
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Originally Posted by fitump56
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You memorize (generally) how many rules, lines of text? 100s? 1000s?



If you are out there winging it with your people skills, without set parameters of behaviour, you are going to find that when ejecting the complaint will be "inconsistent".
Handling situations is an art that comes with experience. I have some general rules that are automatic ejections. Making contact, charging me saying " you suck etc.

Other situations I handle on a case by case basis. Rest assured I know when to launch.

jicecone Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:44pm
Umpire Mike Winters suspended for remainder of regular season over Bradley flap

By RONALD BLUM, AP Baseball Writer
September 26, 2007

NEW YORK (AP) -- Umpire Mike Winters was suspended by Major League Baseball for the remainder of the regular season on Wednesday because of his confrontation with San Diego's Milton Bradley last weekend.

The Padres claimed Winters baited Bradley, who has a history of losing his temper. Bradley tore a knee ligament when his manager spun him to the ground while trying to keep him from going after the umpire during Sunday's 7-3 loss to Colorado in San Diego.

Rich Wed Sep 26, 2007 02:31pm
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Originally Posted by jicecone
Umpire Mike Winters suspended for remainder of regular season over Bradley flap

By RONALD BLUM, AP Baseball Writer
September 26, 2007

NEW YORK (AP) -- Umpire Mike Winters was suspended by Major League Baseball for the remainder of the regular season on Wednesday because of his confrontation with San Diego's Milton Bradley last weekend.

The Padres claimed Winters baited Bradley, who has a history of losing his temper. Bradley tore a knee ligament when his manager spun him to the ground while trying to keep him from going after the umpire during Sunday's 7-3 loss to Colorado in San Diego.
Well, that will give Winters a few days to rest up for the playoffs.

bob jenkins Wed Sep 26, 2007 02:49pm
Since there's now another thread dealing with this (Winters adv. Bradley) matter, I think it's time for this thread to close.


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