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DonInKansas Wed Jul 25, 2007 02:13am

Kei Igawa of the Yankees wears em too.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/4...2da77c90_o.jpg

bob jenkins Wed Jul 25, 2007 07:52am

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Originally Posted by fitump56
If B complains, F1 needs to remove.

Rule reference, please.

UmpLarryJohnson Wed Jul 25, 2007 08:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitump56
Since I call the game, no and so what?

WOW hahahahaha

ozzy6900 Wed Jul 25, 2007 09:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins
Rule reference, please.

Hey Bob, under FED, there may be an issue if the batter complains. :rolleyes:

FED 1-4-2 states:
ART. 2 ... For individual players, uniform sleeve lengths may vary. However, sleeves of each individual player shall be approximately the same length and shall not be ragged, frayed or slit. If the pitcher's undershirt sleeves are exposed, they shall not be white or gray. A pitcher shall not wear any item on his hands, wrists or arms which may be distracting to the batter.
Now I've never gotten any complaints about F1 wearing normal sunglasses (never ran into the mirrored variety) but I am sure that some coach, somewhere may try to extend FED 1-4-2 to include sunglasses.

Personally, if F1 needs sunglasses in order to see properly, I am not going to say a word. Hell, the batter should be looking for the ball and that is usually somewhere around F1's hand, isn't it? :)

Jerry Wed Jul 25, 2007 09:28am

Kevin Gregg of the Florida Marlins started wearing reflective sunglasses while pitching, even at night. The shades have become his signature . . . and a key to his success, or so he says. Gregg wears them at night to reduce the glare from stadium lights, he said.

There's nothing in any MLB rule book or manual that prohibits the use of reflective sunglasses, that I'm aware of. Obviously, MLB hasn't done anything to prevent Kevin from wearing them.

Jerry

BigUmp56 Wed Jul 25, 2007 09:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzy6900
[/INDENT][LEFT]Now I've never gotten any complaints about F1 wearing normal sunglasses (never ran into the mirrored variety) but I am sure that some coach, somewhere may try to extend FED 1-4-2 to include sunglasses.

Unless the pitcher's wearing his sunglasses on his hands, wrists, or arms, I don't see how a coach could extend 1-4-2 to include sunglasses.


Tim.

ozzy6900 Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:02am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigUmp56
Unless the pitcher's wearing his sunglasses on his hands, wrists, or arms, I don't see how a coach could extend 1-4-2 to include sunglasses.


Tim.

Note the :rolleyes: following the post! Also, you know that a coach will use everything possible!

Besides, son't you wear sunglasses on your arms? I hear it's the latest rage on the West Coast! :D

BigUmp56 Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:04am

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900
Note the :rolleyes: following the post! Also, you know that a coach will use everything possible!

Besides, son't you wear sunglasses on your arms? I hear it's the latest rage on the West Coast! :D

Too true. A coach complaining about sunglasses would be an automatic 11.03(g) for me.


Tim.

fitump56 Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins
Rule reference, please.

You got one. The other is if I am PU, and I believe that there is an issue, I'm ripping those things off his face.

fitump56 Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonInKansas
Kei Igawa of the Yankees wears em too.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/4...2da77c90_o.jpg

Nice pic. Don't seem to reflect.

bob jenkins Thu Jul 26, 2007 08:46am

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Originally Posted by fitump56
You got one. The other is if I am PU, and I believe that there is an issue, I'm ripping those things off his face.

Sorry, I don't think the quoted rule can be interpreted as "if the batter complains, F1 NEEDS TO remove" as you originally stated.

And, while I agree that if the umpire thinks there is an issue that the glasses should be removed, that's not the point I was making and is not relevant to the statement you made.

fitump56 Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins
Sorry, I don't think the quoted rule can be interpreted as "if the batter complains, F1 NEEDS TO remove" as you originally stated.

And, while I agree that if the umpire thinks there is an issue that the glasses should be removed, that's not the point I was making and is not relevant to the statement you made.

You asked for me to produce a rule, I said "you got one" and here it was.

http://forum.officiating.com/showpos...1&postcount=19

No need to restate it. FTM, you could call it UC. But if I have a B with a legitimate complaint, then off they go. Until then, on they stay unless they offend me.

Rich Ives Fri Jul 27, 2007 06:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitump56
You asked for me to produce a rule, I said "you got one" and here it was.

http://forum.officiating.com/showpos...1&postcount=19

No need to restate it. FTM, you could call it UC. But if I have a B with a legitimate complaint, then off they go. Until then, on they stay unless they offend me.


You didn't produce a rule that applies.

bob jenkins Fri Jul 27, 2007 07:39am

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitump56
But if I have a B with a legitimate complaint, then off they go. Until then, on they stay unless they offend me.

I agree with this. It's not how I read what you said before.

Rich Ives Fri Jul 27, 2007 09:21am

Of course no batter would lie about it being distracting. No head game. It really is distracting Blue honest. Cross my heart.


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