My 1st Ejection

[DG]

I would have tossed him after the first "incompetent" call, and included exactly what he said to me in the report. He he said something personal (ie incompetent) or profane the report would be very short.

[Forest Ump]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

I assuming you were in a two man system. What were you doing running out to rightfield? You never get out of the grass and cross the dirt if in B and C. If you were in A on ball hit to right centerfield you should have been coming in and pivoting with the runner.

Since you have the bases loaded, you were hopefully in C. Who is going to make the calls on the bases if you're in rightfield?

Mr. Aerosmith, he said it was hit to Right Center Field. That's why F8 and F9 are converging on the ball. It's called working the V. Who do you think should go out on trouble balls? Pretty basic stuff. Go back to the attic and play with your toys.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Forest Ump

Mr. Aerosmith, he said it was hit to Right Center Field. That's why F8 and F9 are converging on the ball. It's called working the V. Who do you think should go out on trouble balls? Pretty basic stuff. Go back to the attic and play with your toys.

I really hate to agree with Steve, but you do not leave the diamond from the B or C position. You might move for an angle, but you do not leave the diamond.

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Since you have the bases loaded, you were hopefully in C. Who is going to make the calls on the bases if you're in rightfield?

Well Steve, if the bases are loaded many are taught to be in the C position. This is often taught to put the umpire in a better position to call the play at first.

Peace

[SanDiegoSteve]

Well, C is just a pre-pitch position. Hopefully JM meant what he said, in that he was moving toward RF, not into RF, from his starting point (C), without crossing the base line.

[socalblue1]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Well, C is just a pre-pitch position. Hopefully JM meant what he said, in that he was moving toward RF, not into RF, from his starting point (C), without crossing the base line.

Playoff time too. U1 in three or four umpire crew WOULD go onto the grass for this.

Two umpire crew - Agree with SDS.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Forest Ump

Mr. Aerosmith, he said it was hit to Right Center Field. That's why F8 and F9 are converging on the ball. It's called working the V. Who do you think should go out on trouble balls? Pretty basic stuff. Go back to the attic and play with your toys.

For God's sake, is it necessary for people to nitpick the mechanics here? (Not the person I quoted, but since ST is on ignore, this is the best I can do).

If F8 and F9 collided and I needed to cross the basepath to see if the ball was laying on the ground behind a fielder, I'm doing it, especially if the players were injured and I know that we're calling TIME as soon as we ascertain what's going on and play stops. The catch/no catch is paramount. My partner can pick up on what I did and can cover third, if necessary. I can pick up plays at second from behind, if I need to.

C is a starting point. The right place to go is the place that's necessary for the situation. For example, if the ball is stuck under something in the outfield and a fielder raises his hand, I'm going to go out to check on it.

[UmpJM]

I was working the game solo.

I had come out from behind the plate and had set to call the catch/no catch just short of the pitcher's mound to the 3B side where I had an angle on the initial attempt.

When no one came up showing the ball after the collision, I started running towards RF, about midway between 1B and 2B to get an angle to clear the tangle of the 2 fielders and was probably about a step or two onto the infield dirt when I saw the ball on the ground.

JM

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by CoachJM

I was working the game solo.

I had come out from behind the plate and had set to call the catch/no catch just short of the pitcher's mound to the 3B side where I had an angle on the initial attempt.

When no one came up showing the ball after the collision, I started running towards RF, about midway between 1B and 2B to get an angle to clear the tangle of the 2 fielders and was probably about a step or two onto the infield dirt when I saw the ball on the ground.

JM

Coach, you did what you had to do in the situation - no big deal like others are making of it. Just remember that if those fielders were not on the ground, you may get a throw back into the infield, but that would be a different situation.

To the amateurs out there, the number one, most important thing that an umpire needs to know is the status of the ball. Nothing can happen without the ball! Try to keep that in mind in the future!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by CoachJM

I was working the game solo.

I had come out from behind the plate and had set to call the catch/no catch just short of the pitcher's mound to the 3B side where I had an angle on the initial attempt.

When no one came up showing the ball after the collision, I started running towards RF, about midway between 1B and 2B to get an angle to clear the tangle of the 2 fielders and was probably about a step or two onto the infield dirt when I saw the ball on the ground.

JM

This is the exact reason why it is totally wrong for anyone to work a game by themselves by design. You cannot call the game very well even if you are in shape or you know what you are doing. I am so glad I started in a place that never did this on purpose. I think if I started umpiring in this area and had to work by myself, I would have quit years ago.

Peace