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Old Sat Jul 07, 2007, 10:50pm
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Also to be asked, "From where would he get umpires if he doesn't support them?"

He can probably "survive" one incident as described in the OP, but if he continually sides with the coaches in disputes, then word will get around and he'll be short of umpires.
Assuming they have this freedom to work wherever they want. I rarely see that being the case, unless you are willing to travel extensively and take a back seat in your new assn.
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Old Sun Jul 08, 2007, 09:05am
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Assuming they have this freedom to work wherever they want. I rarely see that being the case, unless you are willing to travel extensively and take a back seat in your new assn.
Whether you've seen it or not, it is the case in many (but not all, I agree) areas. An assignor's actions can also lead to umpires "retiring" and / or individuals not becoming umpires, thus leading to the same (or similar) shortage.

Assignors (and associations) have to balance the needs / wants / desires of the umpires against those of the leagues / coaches. I don't envy them.
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Old Sun Jul 08, 2007, 10:25am
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Whether you've seen it or not, it is the case in many (but not all, I agree) areas. An assignor's actions can also lead to umpires "retiring" and / or individuals not becoming umpires, thus leading to the same (or similar) shortage.

Assignors (and associations) have to balance the needs / wants / desires of the umpires against those of the leagues / coaches. I don't envy them.
Let me ask you this, Bob. I know that in your area and many other metropolitan areas around the country there are competing associations for a limited number of contracts.


If an assignor isn't backing his umpires in one association, doesn't the ability of the competent officials tend to give these guys a good bit of leverage by having the option of working for another association that will back their group?

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Old Sun Jul 08, 2007, 10:07pm
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Assuming they have this freedom to work wherever they want. I rarely see that being the case, unless you are willing to travel extensively and take a back seat in your new assn.

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Whether you've seen it or not, it is the case in many (but not all, I agree) areas. An assignor's actions can also lead to umpires "retiring" and / or individuals not becoming umpires, thus leading to the same (or similar) shortage.

Assignors (and associations) have to balance the needs / wants / desires of the umpires against those of the leagues / coaches. I don't envy them.
What I have not seen is that umpires can move from one association to another easily.
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