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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 08:12am
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The reason I ask is because it seemed clear that after the ball hit home plate and bounced up it either hit the batter or the catcher and seemed to roll out of fair territory. I clearly understand that the ball hitting home plate is always fair territory, is it not more relevant where the ball ends up? And if the ball indeed hit the catcher or batter after hitting home plate, is there a ruling there also. I can definitely see how making a call in a split second with so many variables can be very difficult. Thanks again.
I don't know what the diameter of a 5-sided object looks like ... so I'll ignore that.

The point of the plate is the corner of the square that defines fair territory, and the lines of that square extend from that point to the outside edges of the bases - a ball inside that square or touching the line is in fair territory.

A ball that has not been touched (by a player, coach, fence, etc) or come to rest is neither a foul ball nor a fair ball... it is nothing until it either stops or is touched. Then, the location of the ball when it stops or is touched determines whether that ball is fair or foul (unless it's caught in flight, in which case it's merely a caught fly ball over fair or foul territory, and still live).

Your ball hit the plate ... it is currently over fair territory, but is still neither fair nor foul.

You then mention (in the 2nd post, not the OP) that it was touched by the batter or the catcher... this changes the OP completely. If it touched the batter and the batter is still in the box, then by rule it's a foul ball, even if it was in that small corner of the batter's box that is in fair territory. If it touched the catcher, then it is either fair or foul based upon where it was when it touched the catcher (if this occurred directly over home plate - the ball is fair!). The fact that it then bounded a mile foul is irrelevant - it gained it's fair/foul status the second it was touched.

Perhaps your ball hit the catcher directly over the plate and deflected 12 feet foul - then the umpire's call was right - fair ball, play on.
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 08:58am
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Yeah, it is a bit ironic that Ozzy would criticize using the wrong word...
Great catch and StevenTyler did the definitions!

The word mute is also used to describe an attachment used on brass instruments (horns) to muffle them down or lower the presence of the sound.

And that is exactly what I meant in my comment "therefore, your question is mute!".

This is why I love this board! While everyone out there is running in circles to correct a comment, one or two people like SDS sit there and say "What the f*** did he mean?" Bravo Steve - most people read the post and thought "moot"! You at least had the insight to see that there is a method to my madness!

Now, bring on the drugs!

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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 09:03am
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I think we all knew it was supposed to be "moot" but right now, your point is exactly that, moot.
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 09:15am
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I think we all knew it was supposed to be "moot" but right now, your point is exactly that, moot.
Only if you didn't get it. Which you didn't. I'll call the press.
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 09:23am
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"Mute" has also replaced the non-p.c. term "dumb."
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 09:26am
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"Mute" has also replaced the non-p.c. term "dumb."
That's gotta be one of the mutest things I've ever heard.
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 09:57am
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Like it matters now, Steve. It's all moot.
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 11:25am
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Only if you didn't get it. Which you didn't. I'll call the press.
are you sure about that??
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 12:29pm
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are you sure about that??
Yea, pretty much.
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I think we all knew it was supposed to be "moot" but right now, your point is exactly that, moot.
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The word mute is also used to describe an attachment used on brass instruments (horns) to muffle them down or lower the presence of the sound.

And that is exactly what I meant in my comment "therefore, your question is mute!".
So, no ... we didn't "all know it was supposed to be 'moot'" - it wasn't.
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 12:32pm
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If only I could be as awesome as some of the people on here and be able to know what other people are thinking...that is AWESOME!
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 12:51pm
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If only I could be as awesome as some of the people on here and be able to know what other people are thinking...that is AWESOME!
You have proved me wrong.

Not in the statement I made above. But in the other thread where I mention 3 people being on ignore making my life better. It's 4. I'm sure you'll miss me.
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Steve, my 52nd as well!! Happy BD to us...
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Steve, my 52nd as well!! Happy BD to us...
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It's my birthday too, yeah!

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Hah!!

What a couple of old farts!

I won't be 52 until August.

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