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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 01:04pm
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The second one (only). 7.09(i)

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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 01:09pm
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cshs81,

The second one (only). 7.09(i)

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I'm guessing the "inadvertantly" part is the key factor????

What if the catcher picked up the ball that got away and could not throw to 3rd because the batter was backing up ? Lets assume we deem that he was not intentionally getting in the way of the catcher.
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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 01:31pm
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What if the catcher picked up the ball that got away and could not throw to 3rd because the batter was backing up ? Lets assume we deem that he was not intentionally getting in the way of the catcher.
No intent, no INT. Once the defense has misplayed the pitch, the bar for INT goes higher.
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Old Thu May 24, 2007, 02:00am
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No intent, no INT. Once the defense has misplayed the pitch, the bar for INT goes higher.
You are right.
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Old Thu May 24, 2007, 11:06am
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You are right.
Except that "no intent, no interference" is not correct. One need not have intent to have interference.
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Old Thu May 24, 2007, 11:18am
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Correct. Poor wording on my part, sorry.

What I should have said was, in this specific instance, since the defense has misplayed the ball, the bar for the batter's INT with the throw very closely approaches the 'intent' level, if not past it.

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Old Thu May 24, 2007, 02:24pm
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OBR RULE 2 DEFINITIONS

INTERFERENCE

(a) Offensive interference is an act by the team at bat which interferes with, obstructs, impedes, hinders or confuses any fielder attempting to make a play. If the umpire declares the batter, batter runner, or a runner out for interference, all other runners shall return to the last base that was in the judgment of the umpire, legally touched at the time of the interference, unless otherwise provided by these rules. In the event the batter runner has not reached first base, all runners shall return to the base last occupied at the time of the pitch.


Where do you read "misplayed", "intent" or "intentional"?

6.06 A batter is out for illegal action when-

(c) He interferes with the catcher's fielding or throwing by stepping out of the batter's box or making any other movement that hinders the catcher's play at home base.

EXCEPTION: Batter is not out if any runner attempting to advance is put out, or if runner trying to score is called out for batter's interference. If the batter interferes with the catcher, the plate umpire shall call "interference." The batter is out and the ball dead. No player may advance on such interference (offensive interference) and all runners must return to the last base that was, in the judgment of the umpire, legally touched at the time of the interference. If, however, the catcher makes a play and the runner attempting to advance is put out, it is to be assumed there was no actual interference and that runner is out_not the batter. Any other runners on the base at the time may advance as the ruling is that there is no actual interference if a runner is retired. In that case play proceeds just as if no violation had been called. If a batter strikes at a ball and misses and swings so hard he carries the bat all the way around and, in the umpire's judgment, unintentionally hits the catcher or the ball in back of him on the backswing before the catcher has securely held the ball, it shall be called a strike only (not interference). The ball will be dead, however, and no runner shall advance on the play.


Again, where do you read "misplayed", "intent" or "intentional"?

Batter's out for interference, runner is returned to 2B.

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Old Wed May 23, 2007, 02:22pm
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What if the catcher picked up the ball that got away and could not throw to 3rd because the batter was backing up ? Lets assume we deem that he was not intentionally getting in the way of the catcher.
If the batter got hit by a actual throw or impeded with the catchers attempt to throw, you would have interference in this case. By attempt, I mean there was contact between the two. Batter should remain in his box during this play. Do not judge intent.
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